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Old December 8th, 2008, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: Bug or WAD? Armies refuse to move

There is a bug where armies refuse to move even when they should, but we'd need a set of files from the turn before the move is supposed to happen and the turns where the move should have happened but didn't. A before and after snapshot, as it were. Otherwise it is impossible to pin down.

This would require making backup copies of every turn. Nobody has provided the needed files yet.
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Old December 8th, 2008, 03:39 PM
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This would require making backup copies of every turn. Nobody has provided the needed files yet.
I'm doing backups of every turn for the games played on my servers. I think somebody even had the problem of non-moving armies in one of those games. AFAIK that's not enough, though, JK wants to have the error reproducible, that it happens for every hosting of the turn in the same way. This seems not to be possible, unless he'd start to save the random salt value that has been used for hosting the turn. Otherwise you can't expect to get the same hosting result at all.
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This would require making backup copies of every turn. Nobody has provided the needed files yet.
I'm doing backups of every turn for the games played on my servers. I think somebody even had the problem of non-moving armies in one of those games. AFAIK that's not enough, though, JK wants to have the error reproducible, that it happens for every hosting of the turn in the same way. This seems not to be possible, unless he'd start to save the random salt value that has been used for hosting the turn. Otherwise you can't expect to get the same hosting result at all.
Coincidentally enough, I just had this happen on your server. In the OO-Karan game, my Shinuyama army was ordered to attack the Pythium capital at least twice. The 1st time was in the orders that gave rise to turn 40 (my sneaking gem scout sneaked without the army and got caught by the patrollers - bummer). The other I'll have to check on a different computer and PM you, Ich.

I eventually ordered the army to just stay put, and, sure enough, the Pythian army showed up and we had our little party.

Even if "army bouncing" is working as intended, it makes no sense. If two armies head toward each other, itching for a fight, and they unexpectedly crash into each other - would you expect them to just have a cup of tea and go back home to their camp?
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