Preponderance - Big Team Game! [1-2 subs needed!]

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by Executor

I don't see what the problem is on either side, stale is bad, but so is plague on turn 1, which 3 players apparently had.
Rollback will take a day but it'll save a week looking for two subs, and seriously I don't know why everyone is making a fuss about this, a single stale turn?

People often forget that the implications of luck are much more severe with CBM than with vanilla Dominions.

But I really think restarts are in order if you get the merchants in the temple event (knocking you out of the game)
the barbarian horder or knights on your capital, or the huge unrest event...

[MadFrancis]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

People often forget that the implications of luck are much more severe with CBM than with vanilla Dominions.

But I really think restarts are in order if you get the merchants in the temple event (knocking you out of the game)
the barbarian horder or knights on your capital, or the huge unrest event...

I agree. For me, only being able to participate in two games at a time, I see no issue restarting a game until everyone has at least a decent start (don't worry, I'm not advocating just opinion-ing). I know some people feel that that is just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes and you should just deal with it and move on. While that may be reasonable for those who have time for three or four or five or six games at a time (you know who you are ... [cough]JimMorrison[cough]), those of us whose gaming time is a bit more limited really get screwed.

It takes me weeks to either find a game to participate in or get a game started. Getting a game ender first thing after weeks of planning and then having to look forward to more weeks of planning to get into a different game (once you have done your duty and played out the end of your original game or taken the time to find someone willing to sub a lost cause, of course) is really unrewarding. So far I haven't had very good luck with MP games. I seem to spend more time looking or preparing for a game to start than I do actually playing. It just gets really old after awhile.

I wonder how difficult it would be to script a mod that just banned some of the more terrible bad events (and maybe as a balance some of the best good events) within the first three turns or so, or maybe even just the first. I know it might unbalance the value of luck scales (+ or -) somewhat, but it seems like it would be pretty negligible over the course of a whole game (I'm certainly no expert). Just a though, and probably one for a different thread.

Anyway, I would like to thank everyone for the chance to actually see my weeks of preparation for this game come to fruition. I do greatly appreciate it and am eagerly looking forward to pitting myself (as Jomon, along with JimMorrison as Lanka) against everyone here and having a great game.

Good luck everyone (unless you took negative luck scales I guess).

[vfb]

I had no problem whatsoever with restarting because you didn't see the turn, because the game was all messed up and had 2 different names and 3 different copies.

But, bad events are just part of the game and it's something you have to deal with. Especially in a team game, where your teammate can help you out (if he actually reads/responds to your firkin' emails). The only real "game ender" is a dom death from the merchant event. I've never seen that on turn 2, and if you don't have another white candle somewhere else on turn 3, then that's a risk you took with your build.

Actually, bad events are more than just part of the game. They are part of the fun of the game, since they are adding an element of surprise and risk. I'd hate to see them taken out or nerfed.

Originally Posted by MadFrancis

I agree. For me, only being able to participate in two games at a time, I see no issue restarting a game until everyone has at least a decent start (don't worry, I'm not advocating just opinion-ing). I know some people feel that that is just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes and you should just deal with it and move on. While that may be reasonable for those who have time for three or four or five or six games at a time (you know who you are ... [cough]JimMorrison[cough]), those of us whose gaming time is a bit more limited really get screwed.

It takes me weeks to either find a game to participate in or get a game started. Getting a game ender first thing after weeks of planning and then having to look forward to more weeks of planning to get into a different game (once you have done your duty and played out the end of your original game or taken the time to find someone willing to sub a lost cause, of course) is really unrewarding. So far I haven't had very good luck with MP games. I seem to spend more time looking or preparing for a game to start than I do actually playing. It just gets really old after awhile.

I wonder how difficult it would be to script a mod that just banned some of the more terrible bad events (and maybe as a balance some of the best good events) within the first three turns or so, or maybe even just the first. I know it might unbalance the value of luck scales (+ or -) somewhat, but it seems like it would be pretty negligible over the course of a whole game (I'm certainly no expert). Just a though, and probably one for a different thread.

Anyway, I would like to thank everyone for the chance to actually see my weeks of preparation for this game come to fruition. I do greatly appreciate it and am eagerly looking forward to pitting myself (as Jomon, along with JimMorrison as Lanka) against everyone here and having a great game.

Good luck everyone (unless you took negative luck scales I guess).

[MadFrancis]

Originally Posted by vfb

I had no problem whatsoever with restarting because you didn't see the turn, because the game was all messed up and had 2 different names and 3 different copies.

But, bad events are just part of the game and it's something you have to deal with. Especially in a team game, where your teammate can help you out (if he actually reads/responds to your firkin' emails). The only real "game ender" is a dom death from the merchant event. I've never seen that on turn 2, and if you don't have another white candle somewhere else on turn 3, then that's a risk you took with your build.

Actually, bad events are more than just part of the game. They are part of the fun of the game, since they are adding an element of surprise and risk. I'd hate to see them taken out or nerfed.

Actually I think you make a good point. My problems with MP DOM3 isn't anything other than how long it takes and how much effort goes into starting a new game. Nerfing the game to fix that problem is a bit heavy handed. If it wasn't quite so cumbersome to find and start new games (for someone like me) it wouldn't matter so much if you got bumped out early from bad events or unlucky starting positions, etc.

Speaking of which, I do have to give Llamabeast a heartfelt tip of the hat for all the work he has put into his Llamaserver and the ease with which it facilitates MP game creation. On my behalf, thanks alot Llama.