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Old January 12th, 2009, 12:29 AM

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Default Re: Recovery vehicles? (Or where's my Scammel?)

Let me add some context here.

I own 2 armoured cars. I've driven and recovered one of them by myself from being bogged down to the hubs. I've also assisted in the recovery of a 5 ton truck with a 2.5 ton truck where the 5 ton was NOT able to get traction.

I'm speaking in the context of basic buddy tows OR light recovery tasks. Unsticking an Abrams from a mud hole where it's up to it's fenders isn't the sum total example of what recovery operations entail. They can be as simple as rolling up with another similar vehicle attaching the two chains/cables to the requisite points and tugging the vehicle out of the problem ground.

Look at some ferrets, humbers, daimlers or carriers other AFVs (wheeled or tracked) in operation and you'll see a tow chain for effecting quick recovery of another vehicle from your troop/platoon/squadron/section which has bogged down.

If you read unit histories you'll find that AFVs are recoverd under fire from the enemy both by the buddy mode and by dedicated recovery vehicles which are armoured however lightly. If you're under fire from harrasing mortar fire OR rifle fire, you can effet a recovery. That's why the US, British and Germans all had armoured recovery vehicles. you're not going to do it while the FEBA is right on top of you unless you're really desparate, BUT you can easily have instances where the FEBA has moved on but there are still some isolated pockets where the enemy hasn't quite stopped taking pot shots.

If you bust a track, that can take time. I have done work on a bren carriers's track in the field so I know what it's like. The crew has everything it needs to do this sort of work, and you're MORE likely to break a track than you are to break a final drive or a drive sproket. When you consider the bigger vehicles though, the amount of forces exerted on those parts means you're just as likely to bust track as you are to break a final drive depending on the daft things your drivers do.

So, I guess the question is, when you're immobilized, that means the vehicle is, for game purposes glued there? Or it means that it cannot move under it's own power? If something CAN be moved to it's location, it can be collected or not?
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