Casting Globals when 5 are up

[MaxWilson]

That's because when you play against the AI you probably usually have at least 3 of the 5 global slots.

I frequently see the AIs fight over global slots, sometimes for the same spell, sometimes a rivalry between Eyes of God/Dark Skies/Maelstrom/etc.

-Max

[Loren]

Originally Posted by MaxWilson

That's because when you play against the AI you probably usually have at least 3 of the 5 global slots.

But it's happened too often to be chance. If all 5 slots are full I have *NEVER* knocked out a random AI spell if one of my own is up. At this point I no longer even try.

I frequently see the AIs fight over global slots, sometimes for the same spell, sometimes a rivalry between Eyes of God/Dark Skies/Maelstrom/etc.

-Max

Yeah, the AI's do take out each other's spells at times.

[MaxWilson]

Hmmm. Does it always happen with the same nation? Especially if that nation is at the very top or bottom of the nation list? I'm wracking my brains trying to think of why you could have a different experience than everyone else; although my guess is still that it's just chance.

-Max

[Loren]

Originally Posted by MaxWilson

Hmmm. Does it always happen with the same nation? Especially if that nation is at the very top or bottom of the nation list? I'm wracking my brains trying to think of why you could have a different experience than everyone else; although my guess is still that it's just chance.

-Max

It's been long enough since I experimented with it that I don't recall details. I'm in a position I can do some tests, though...

[archaeolept]

Loren, was this under Dom III, or a previous version?

[JimMorrison]

Just this last week in an SP game, the AI had filled most global slots with low cost crap globals before I got one up. When I was ready to cast my second global, I grit my teeth as the turn processed, and then smiled when it was cast successfully, without bringing down my other spell.

<3

This was under 3.21~

[Loren]

Originally Posted by archaeolept

Loren, was this under Dom III, or a previous version?

3. I never heard of Dominions until 3.

At this point I've taken a dozen shots at his Eyes of God, 20 gems over, no extra caster levels. (+20 gems is not going to take out any of my spells). Unfortunately, I have no way of knowing what power his spell is cast at other than by trying to dispel it. My experience is the AI usually doesn't put extra gems into it's spells, though.

[Lingchih]

Well, not generally, but 20 gems over is pretty weak. Try like 50 gems over. That should do it.

[Loren]

Originally Posted by Lingchih

Well, not generally, but 20 gems over is pretty weak. Try like 50 gems over. That should do it.

That could endanger the globals I have up--they're all at +50 but a couple of them used all but one caster level to cast.

I guess I could run the game a bit and recast those globals way over so I don't risk taking them out. It's one I've decided is won but there is still a lot going on and the turn generation is long even if I do nothing.

[JimMorrison]

Originally Posted by Loren

That could endanger the globals I have up--they're all at +50 but a couple of them used all but one caster level to cast.

I guess I could run the game a bit and recast those globals way over so I don't risk taking them out. It's one I've decided is won but there is still a lot going on and the turn generation is long even if I do nothing.

If it's just for testing and theorycrafting anyways, just set up your turn how you want it, with the global set to cast. Save and Quit, then copy that saved game folder. Load it and run the turn, if the spell fails, copy the files from the backup folder, load it and execute the turn. Repeat until you get positive results, or you are satisfied with the negative outcome, and want to change how many gems you use, or whatever.