Crossbows vs. Longbows

[Aezeal]

well I don't think that is AP, that is just high damage since on an unarmoured person it would do much more damage too. (I'm not sure a well padded armour would give the wearer that much problems from a blow of a mace)

[Aleph]

Read about five pages of this and had to go, wanted to post:

Agincourt, AFAIK, was partly won due to a simple difference in philosophy. The French thought that they were fighting a chivalric war and could expect to be captured and ransomed back if defeated, while the English were well and truly in enemy territory and took to murdering the surrendered French knights with daggers and sledgehammers. It's like if one side of a football game all came to the field with brass knuckles and knives and there were no refs to call foul on it... you'd expect that team to do quite well until the other side caught on. This is a problem you won't have in Dominions - there's no honorable surrender.

Furthermore, AFAIK the French didn't even bother deploying their crossbowmen at Agincourt. Certainly, they might have fared better if they had.

Finally, I believe the longbow was never outlawed for use against other Christians by the Vatican, which tells you that the crossbow was doing something right.

[13lackGu4rd]

Originally Posted by Aleph

Finally, I believe the longbow was never outlawed for use against other Christians by the Vatican, which tells you that the crossbow was doing something right.

the fact that the longbow was not banned like the crossbow has nothing to do with the longbow being inferior to the crossbow... the crossbow was banned because it was used against honorable knights and pierced through their armor. that's what crossbows do best, pierce thick armor at short range. longbows on the other hand had a much greater range and were not really aimed at piercing thick knight armor, nor firing at knights from short range. the longbow gave you a huge tactical advantage, and changed the way you deployed your forces if you had longbows in your army. while the crossbows just gave you more firepower via mass, and it was effective against knight's armor.

honestly, comparing longbows and crossbows is almost like comparing apples to oranges, they're 2 very different weapons with different goals(in reality, not so much in dominions...).