Major Modification

SirDarwin · #1 November 18th, 2000, 03:49 AM

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Originally posted by Knight:
My problem is with technology. The tech trees and components will need major reworking. I'd rather cut research out of the game completely and "give" either side their upgrades on certain dates. (The Peeps got most of their tech from the Solarian League, anyway.)

Yeah I've been thinking about how to do the research, and for the moment (until the scenario editor comes out) some of it has too be researched, but I've hacked and slashed the file pretty good, removing a lot of it so far

Once I get all the ships hulls in, I'm going to start adding the weapons.

Noble713 · #2 November 18th, 2000, 05:39 AM

The only problem I see is the wedge and sidewalls. They could be considered shields, but there is no way to get up the kilt or down the throat shots since facing doesn't matter in SEIV.

Dutch · #3 November 18th, 2000, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by SirDarwin:
Ok I've been reading a series of books by David Weber recently, revolving around a charcter named Honor Harrigton (started with "On Basilisk Station"). I don't know if its by chance or not but a lot of the things in SEIV reminds me of this series, which is neat. Now I was looking at maybe making modifications so that it more resembles the books. Now realistically the best way for it to be played in game would be with two players (one playing the Manticore Alliance, the other the People's Republic of Haven).

Actually, David Weber was involved in the design/redesign of the Starfire board game, which the SE-series mentions one game that it is based on. Weber led the redesign of 3rd Edition Starfire (and Imperial Starfire).
This was completed around 1993/94.

The Honor Harrington novels started to proliferate around the time that Starfire, 3rd Ed. was finished. Weber most likely incorporated parts of the game into his novels.

Weber did write 3 novels/books set directly in the Starfire universe and timeline; each one had a scenario/ship/tech pack published for the game. The novels are: Crusade, In Death Ground, and Insurrection.

These would probably fit right in with SE4.

Just some trivia, for those who care ...

Dutch

Warlord Adamus · #4 November 18th, 2000, 03:04 PM

"Now I'd like to not only make changes to the rules, but also add in pictures for the two new "races". "

I think the tech would be pretty easy to do. Cut out just about every field besides Missile and High energy, and just tweak those two to resemble HH Cap missiles and graser/lasers. The hard part would be finding someone to do a shipset. It would be pretty generic though as there aren't many pictures of HH universe ships at all.

Knight's idea as to how to model the junction is excellent, and you can even do that now if you're patient. You'd just save the map and include it to be played with your MOD.

SirDarwin · #5 November 18th, 2000, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by Warlord Adamus:
I think the tech would be pretty easy to do. Cut out just about every field besides Missile and High energy, and just tweak those two to resemble HH Cap missiles and graser/lasers. The hard part would be finding someone to do a shipset. It would be pretty generic though as there aren't many pictures of HH universe ships at all.[quote]

Well there would be a few more tech fields, depending if you wanted to have people start out low-tech, or full blown SDs I started at it Last night at work, unfortunetly I didn't back up the file I had there, I made one change...messed up the file (game wouldn't start), I changed it back...and still nothing ... doh

Yeah the ship set would be kidna generic for both sides (you'd have to think that they got their designs from the Sollies to begin with

[quote]Knight's idea as to how to model the junction is excellent, and you can even do that now if you're patient. You'd just save the map and include it to be played with your MOD.

Yeah, I'm a patient guy, and work nights sometimes, so I have lots of time to do something like that

SirDarwin · #6 November 18th, 2000, 03:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dutch:
Actually, David Weber was involved in the design/redesign of the Starfire board game, which the SE-series mentions one game that it is based on. Weber led the redesign of 3rd Edition Starfire (and Imperial Starfire).
This was completed around 1993/94.

The Honor Harrington novels started to proliferate around the time that Starfire, 3rd Ed. was finished. Weber most likely incorporated parts of the game into his novels.

Weber did write 3 novels/books set directly in the Starfire universe and timeline; each one had a scenario/ship/tech pack published for the game. The novels are: Crusade, In Death Ground, and Insurrection.

These would probably fit right in with SE4.

Just some trivia, for those who care ...

Dutch

Trivia is always cool

Thanks for it, some more books by Weber I'll probally pick up at some time

SirDarwin · #7 November 18th, 2000, 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by Noble713:
The only problem I see is the wedge and sidewalls. They could be considered shields, but there is no way to get up the kilt or down the throat shots since facing doesn't matter in SEIV.

Yup, unfortunetly this is one of the major things I don't think can be changed with some simple text editing

So it may not be a complete representation of Honor's universe, but it'll be as close as I can get it with what I have to work with