PBEM Security Question

[Wdll]

So, how can this problem be passed for someone that doesn't have the CD version? (not me, I have it). If a PBEM game doesn't end and a new starts at the same slot, what's the safest way to overwrite the "abandoned" PBEM game? It shouldn't be to just copy the newer files over the "abandoned" game since of the problem mentioned. It would be nice to have a "delete pbem" game but then I guess that could be abused.

[Imp]

Originally Posted by Wdll

So, how can this problem be passed for someone that doesn't have the CD version? (not me, I have it). If a PBEM game doesn't end and a new starts at the same slot, what's the safest way to overwrite the "abandoned" PBEM game? It shouldn't be to just copy the newer files over the "abandoned" game since of the problem mentioned. It would be nice to have a "delete pbem" game but then I guess that could be abused.

Thats no problem at all, if you abandon a game or it ends just start a new one in that slot. What you should not do is play 2 games at the same time in the same slot by swapping save files.
CD makes no diffrence just lets you play a lot more at the same time.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Imp

Thats no problem at all, if you abandon a game or it ends just start a new one in that slot. What you should not do is play 2 games at the same time in the same slot by swapping save files.
CD makes no diffrence just lets you play a lot more at the same time.

This is all true. Once a game has been "abandoned" you are free to start a new on in that slot but you must not, especially with a secure game, to try to play two games from the same slot at the same time.

We thought this was all very clear in the game guide. I would suggest anyone with any questions in this regard go back, read that section again, and if there is still things un-clear let us know and we'll re-write that section so it IS clear.

PBEM campaigns ONLY use basic security so they aren't as "touchy" about this as secure PBEM is

Don

[Wdll]

Originally Posted by Imp

Thats no problem at all, if you abandon a game or it ends just start a new one in that slot. What you should not do is play 2 games at the same time in the same slot by swapping save files.
CD makes no diffrence just lets you play a lot more at the same time.

So basicaly it is ok to use the same slot for more than one game, just as long as you do this once. So for example a battle is abandoned in turn 5. Another guy starts a new battle on the same slot, sends me the files and I copy them and start the new battle and there are no problems with it.

[Imp]

So basicaly it is ok to use the same slot for more than one game, just as long as you do this once. So for example a battle is abandoned in turn 5. Another guy starts a new battle on the same slot, sends me the files and I copy them and start the new battle and there are no problems with it.

When you have finnished playing a battle for whatever reason that slot is now free again to start a new one in it.
Think about this or read the guide if you could not once you used all the slots you would need a new game

[mosborne]

Hi:
Appreiciate the feedback.

I got the point about the multiple games in one slot. I really wanted to know if the melt down is definite or only a possibility, as the games are already in play, and no need continuing if they are going to self destruct just when things getting interesting.

Reading the thread it sounds like it is a definite. Any idea, how many turns into the game it happens? If it takes 30 turns to happen, I may try to continue. But if it takes 13 turns, then I will need to propose some options to my friends. Also, is it possible that the meltdown is only non-CD games? And one last question, can someone provide a description of what to expect from a meltdown. Does it not load, or do I see strange things, do my men turn on their commanders and mutiny

BTW I bought the game (in fact I think I bought it three times (both WW2 and MBT, original plus Shrapnel twice by mistake).

Thanks, just trying to fix my goof.

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by mosborne

Hi:
Appreiciate the feedback.

I got the point about the multiple games in one slot. I really wanted to know if the melt down is definite or only a possibility, as the games are already in play, and no need continuing if they are going to self destruct just when things getting interesting.

Reading the thread it sounds like it is a definite. Any idea, how many turns into the game it happens? If it takes 30 turns to happen, I may try to continue. But if it takes 13 turns, then I will need to propose some options to my friends. Also, is it possible that the meltdown is only non-CD games? And one last question, can someone provide a description of what to expect from a meltdown. Does it not load, or do I see strange things, do my men turn on their commanders and mutiny

BTW I bought the game (in fact I think I bought it three times (both WW2 and MBT, original plus Shrapnel twice by mistake).

Thanks, just trying to fix my goof.

Are the games in secure mode?.

If so, then since as I said the game registry for loads/fails is based on the PBEM game slot then they are going to be toast at some point. Your opponent will be thinking you cheat, or you will be thinking he is, since you are stuffing random loads, fails and turn ids from 2 (or more) different secure PBEM games into the same registry slot. Trying to stuff several simultaneous secure games into the same slot is simply trashing the entire reason you are playing secure mode in the first place.

Secure PBEM games must use the same slot throughout the entire life of the PBEM game.

Secure mode is generally only of use for competitive games where you do not trust your opponent to reload cheat.

Only basic mode PBEM security games do not track any registry data, and can be shared in the same slot.

Basic mode PBEM is fine for casual PBEM play against an opponent you trust not to cheat.

Andy