USSR OOB correction

Mobryan · #1 February 5th, 2009, 09:34 PM

The Komsomolets light APC/artillery tractor (unit 108) is modeled as being unarmed, however they actually had a ball mounted DT 7.62mm machine gun (weapon 129). I've mobhacked a armed version with zero firecontrol or rangefinding, 50 rounds of ammo, and a firing rate of 6. It seems fairly realistic for an armed transport, and provides a nice boost for the mechinized scouts.

Matt

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iCaMpWiThAWP · #2 February 6th, 2009, 09:09 PM

I think i saw a version of it that HAS a mg in the game(though i don't know if this was on 3.5)i think it was removed to prevent it from being used as infantry support(armored+MG who still wants lmg squads?)

Mobryan · #3 February 7th, 2009, 02:50 PM

Did we take the guns off the Bren carrier???

You're right about the armed version, the Finns have one, and the Russian artillery tractor is armed. I guess anything can be abused or misused, but it seems odd to have 2 armed versions and then one neutered one. I've taken care to not overdo it, though. It's still a tractor, not a tankette.

One question I do have though... The armed versions all have that gun in the #4 slot. is there a real diference between have the sole armement in the #1 or #4 slots???

Matt

Marek_Tucan · #4 February 7th, 2009, 05:18 PM

Less chance it would fire, easier to suppress etc. Makes sense given that the gun was for self-defence and not as much a primary weapon as I ubderstand it (whereas with bren Carrier where the carried guns was to support infantry/give punch to recon).

iCaMpWiThAWP · #5 February 7th, 2009, 05:51 PM

so, it means that a weapon in slot #3 is less likely to fire than a weapon in slot #2?

Mobhack · #6 February 7th, 2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mobryan

Did we take the guns off the Bren carrier???

You're right about the armed version, the Finns have one, and the Russian artillery tractor is armed. I guess anything can be abused or misused, but it seems odd to have 2 armed versions and then one neutered one. I've taken care to not overdo it, though. It's still a tractor, not a tankette.

One question I do have though... The armed versions all have that gun in the #4 slot. is there a real diference between have the sole armement in the #1 or #4 slots???

Matt

Weapon slot 4 is used as the hull weapon slot, for turreted vehicles with a main gun that has to have the hull turn to bear. See Grant, Char B etc. Some OOB designers did tankettes like that - but if not a turreted icon, they need not have.

Andy

DRG · #7 February 9th, 2009, 04:44 PM

Unit 336 had it and the other two didn't. Now corrected . All three now have a BMG like 336

Don