Guide LA Ulm: Goths Gone Wild! or, Flying Immortal Vampire Harbingers of Dooooooooooooooom!

JimMorrison · #1 February 11th, 2009, 03:27 AM

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When I find out how to get 3300 (or 4400 in vanilla!) Blood Slaves for the cost of even 250 Zweihanders, I will become a god at this game, so certainly that is what I would prefer.

Well Jim, now thats an interesting proposition.
You can't buy vampires with gold. Now, 250 Zweihanders is 10,800resources. So how many turns do you think is reasonable to amass that many zweihanders - especially presuming you may be money limited - and want to buy some other units ....

And if I can show you how to amass that many vampires oh say in 40 turns - would you kow tow and admit *I'm* a dominions god

40 turns?

Wouldn't that be an average of 110 slaves/turn? That's a good income, but I'm not sure about "godly".

10,800 you say? I know in CBM they are 36res, which would be 9000. Not sure on vanilla. But I'll tell you what, I can do THAT faster than 40 turns, that's for sure.

chrispedersen · #2 February 11th, 2009, 08:55 AM

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40 turns?

Wouldn't that be an average of 110 slaves/turn? That's a good income, but I'm not sure about "godly".

10,800 you say? I know in CBM they are 36res, which would be 9000. Not sure on vanilla. But I'll tell you what, I can do THAT faster than 40 turns, that's for sure.

So what would be godly Jim =)

(And you're right about the 9000 - up two days on a court case doesn't do wonders for my math).

JimMorrison · #3 February 11th, 2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen

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40 turns?

Wouldn't that be an average of 110 slaves/turn? That's a good income, but I'm not sure about "godly".

10,800 you say? I know in CBM they are 36res, which would be 9000. Not sure on vanilla. But I'll tell you what, I can do THAT faster than 40 turns, that's for sure.

So what would be godly Jim =)

(And you're right about the 9000 - up two days on a court case doesn't do wonders for my math).

Well, assuming a province count ~20, I would be very impressed if someone could convert 7 of those provinced (as LA Ulm, of course) to hunting provinces averaging ~20 slaves/turn, and still maintain their overall economy. So, in that sort of map scale, you'd need to hit 140 slaves/turn total, and I think that would be pretty damned shocking. Of course, in CBM, that's 4+ Vampire Counts per turn, which would be very nifty indeed.

I still don't think it hugely impacts your need for infantry, though it negates the need for infantry in the backfield for defensive purposes. Since you are not Immortal outside of your Dominion, it's going to be very hard to complete a military campaign on the backs of Vampires, eventually you either subject them to possible attrition, or you resort to other means to take provinces with heavy enemy Dominion.