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Default Re: How many kinds of hero abilities are there in dominions 3 ?

Okay, I've been digging around and I got the following about heroic abilities. It seems that there are really rare ones (chance of 5% to get them) and common ones, but first I want to write about them in general.

Every heroic ability has a stat value (I'll abbreviate it as SV) that increases while being in the hall of fame. The value increases by 1D20 if it is below 200, or 1D10 if between 200 and 300, or otherwise by 1D5. How this heroic stat value scales to a bonus in the game depends on the heroic ability. For example:
  • Abilities ~ SV * 10/100:
    • Valor (to Standard)
  • Abilities ~ SV * 5/100:
    • Adept Researcher
    • Battle Bellow
  • Abilities ~ SV * 4/100:
    • Valor (to Morale)
    • Heroic Stupidity (to Morale)
  • Abilities ~ SV * 3/100:
    • Tough Skin
  • Abilities ~ SV * 2/100:
    • Lightning Reflexes
    • Heroic Precision
    • Heroic Stupidity (to MR)
    • Iron Will
    • Heroic Battle Prowess
    • Heroic Endurance
    • Heroic Agility
  • Abilities ~ SV * 4/300:
    • Third Eye (to Precision)
  • Abilities ~ SV * 1/100:
    • Heroic Agility
    • Third Eye (for MR)
    • Heroic Stupidity (to Attack)
  • Abilities = SV / 200:
    • Heroic Strength
    • Heroic Quickness (to Defense, and AP)
    • Heroic Toughness
  • Abilities = SV / 250:
    • Unequaled Obesity (for HP bonus in %)
  • Abilities = SV / 400:
    • Unequaled Obesity (to Strength)
Unequaled Obesity also gives a fixed +3 enc.

Awesome Presence gives (SV-75)/25 awe. That's exactly the same formula to determine how Awe from magic items that raise normal leadership is being calculated.

Heroic Stupidity also halves magic skill, like being mute.
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Awesome Presence gives (SV-75)/25 awe. That's exactly the same formula to determine how Awe from magic items that raise normal leadership is being calculated.
I wonder if there's a hidden interaction there - someone should put a Leadership item on an Awesome Presence commander (I bet NO ONE has, because it pumps their Leadership crazy high already), and see if it pushes their Awe up immediately (rather than requiring multiple items to reach the threshold).

Also, did not realize Heroic Quickness gave Def as well as the AP, it is officially my favorite (though Obesity makes me smile - is that PC to say? ).
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I wonder if there's a hidden interaction there - someone should put a Leadership item on an Awesome Presence commander (I bet NO ONE has, because it pumps their Leadership crazy high already), and see if it pushes their Awe up immediately (rather than requiring multiple items to reach the threshold).
No, those are two different values, they just use the exact same formula. One for the Awesome Presence skill value, and one for the normal leadership bonus effect in case it's 100 or higher. In case a unit has both, it will receive awe from both, but the values are being calculated on their own.

Unequaled obesity always was my favorite. I had a Dis once who was a lard with over +68 additional hit points, I think, maybe from being a prophet as well, I don't remember. I always wondered how long the poor horse would continue to fly her through the sky.
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Unequaled obesity always was my favorite. I had a Dis once who was a lard with over +68 additional hit points, I think, maybe from being a prophet as well, I don't remember. I always wondered how long the poor horse would continue to fly her through the sky.
It's simple, you just need to realize 2 things -

The horse was fat too.

Magic Beans.

Then it all makes sense!
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