MP: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age

[Dragar]

To put it another way, if pan's neighbours wait for Carrion Woods to deplete its population, there will be little left worth conquering. An early attack is the only way to ensure maximum spoils. Every turn the return keeps dropping..

[Scarlioni]

A few questions.

What was meant by pre research the spell? Isn't a level 0 spell in this mod? Or do you mean he had his pretender pre configured for it?

He must of been site searching and alchmizing to produce the needed 50+ gems?

It's death scale that improves the result of this spell? From the text of the spell itself it sounds like +growth dominion improves the effects.

Tune of Dancing death 31+stun dmage aoe 25.
Guys that just seems wrong to me some how. What are the counters to this? Anti magic, archers and ranged damage... What else?

[JimMorrison]

Originally Posted by Scarlioni

What was meant by pre research the spell? Isn't a level 0 spell in this mod? Or do you mean he had his pretender pre configured for it?

Level 0, so he can cast it from turn 1, and yes he'd need to design his pretender specifically for that purpose.

Originally Posted by Scarlioni

Tune of Dancing death 31+stun dmage aoe 25.
Guys that just seems wrong to me some how. What are the counters to this? Anti magic, archers and ranged damage... What else?

It's Point Blank AOE. So, beating on the caster with sticks, is one effective counter.

[rtyffg]

Originally Posted by Scarlioni

It's death scale that improves the result of this spell? From the text of the spell itself it sounds like +growth dominion improves the effects.

1) Tried some tests, and it seems, +growth increases chaff numbers, nothing seems to increase gem output from it.

Originally Posted by JimMorrison

Level 0, so he can cast it from turn 1, and yes he'd need to design his pretender specifically for that purpose.

It's Point Blank AOE. So, beating on the caster with sticks, is one effective counter.

1) 1-st turn cast does not seem possible. Site searching is helpful, but MA PAN have a 5N income, alloving to cast it on turn 10 without search (most Early possible cast is at turn 7 without gem events)

2) Tune of Dancing death - it is not reliable enough, if an enemy is in range for it, then mage is probably doomed already.

[chrispedersen]

Tune of Dancing death - it is not reliable enough, if an enemy is in range for it, then mage is probably doomed already.

That is not true, at all. Pan probably has a carrion dragon; he will be trying to fight within his dominion. In that case he will have between 240 and 320 hp around now.

Even without an undead priests healing him (an excellent tactic courtesy of cleveland) a carrion dragon may have awe, and will have significant fear.

Personally, I prefer tune of growth over tune of death - especially with an obscene fear aura - but either works. And the carrion dragon has recuperation to take care of any afflictions that occur.

Combine that with a centaur reanimated priest or prophet casting pangeas buffs - very potent indeed.