| 
 | 
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
 
    
    
 
    
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
 
    
    
 
    
    
 | 
       | 
      
 
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		  | 
	
	 | 
 
 
		
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				March 12th, 2009, 01:56 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				BANNED USER 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: May 2004 
					
					
					
						Posts: 4,075
					 
					 
	Thanks: 203 
	
		
			
				Thanked 121 Times in 91 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Vampires - you should be afraid of the night
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		generally immortals seem to heal around one afflicton per turn... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				March 13th, 2009, 11:44 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				Captain 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Jan 2008 
					
					
					
						Posts: 913
					 
					 
	Thanks: 21 
	
		
			
				Thanked 53 Times in 33 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Vampires - you should be afraid of the night
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I just took over Pangaea with lots of vampires in MP. I thought that a vampire lord scripted with attack one turn, 4 x hand of death, with a few vampire bodyguards (to reduce chances of him being hit) would be a good defense against raiding thugs and SCs. 
 
So, Lanka is raiding me with Dakainis and I set this up in a few provinces. First turn vampire lord and his bodyguards surround dakini and then instead of killing her with the hand of death, vampire lord casts soul vortex and disintegrates. He's in range of a touch spell. 
 
I would imagine this to be a common tactic. Anybody else had his vampire lords refuse obedience? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				April 2nd, 2009, 04:31 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				Captain 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Jan 2008 
					
					
					
						Posts: 913
					 
					 
	Thanks: 21 
	
		
			
				Thanked 53 Times in 33 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Vampires - you should be afraid of the night
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I think it's ridiculous that vampire lords don't have 30 moral and can be routed in assassinations. If they die, they reappear in your capital, but if they retreat they are gone for good. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				April 2nd, 2009, 10:43 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				Lieutenant General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: May 2008 
					Location: Utopia, Oregon 
					
					
						Posts: 2,676
					 
					 
	Thanks: 83 
	
		
			
				Thanked 143 Times in 108 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Vampires - you should be afraid of the night
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I think it's important to note that the Life Drain is -not- subject to an MR check.  I just lost a nicely geared tart (buffed to 31 MR) to about 30 vampires in 2 combat rounds.....  I feel very cheated.  8 \ 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	
		
			| 
				
					The Following User Says Thank You to JimMorrison For This Useful Post:
				
			 | 
			
			
		 
		 |  
	 
  
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				April 3rd, 2009, 07:04 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				Major General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Mar 2008 
					Location: Serbia 
					
					
						Posts: 2,245
					 
					 
	Thanks: 48 
	
		
			
				Thanked 84 Times in 46 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Vampires - you should be afraid of the night
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Yeah, I saw. Haaahaahaa, 
rush of strenth with an AP attack can be nasty. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				April 3rd, 2009, 07:20 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				Captain 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Jan 2008 
					
					
					
						Posts: 913
					 
					 
	Thanks: 21 
	
		
			
				Thanked 53 Times in 33 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Vampires - you should be afraid of the night
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I don't know what gave you the idea that life drain is MR. But your tartarian was very badly equiped, that's why he died. With the right equipment, he would of made short work of them (hint: vine shield). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				April 3rd, 2009, 07:55 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Mar 2007 
					Location: Japan 
					
					
						Posts: 3,691
					 
					 
	Thanks: 269 
	
		
			
				Thanked 397 Times in 200 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Vampires - you should be afraid of the night
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Some Life Drain attacks are MR.  For example, a Mind Lord's only melee attack is "Soul Leech", which is an AN+MR aoe-1 life drain attack. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				Whether he submitted the post, or whether he did not, made no difference. The Thought Police would get him just the same. He had committed— would still have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper— the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever.
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				April 3rd, 2009, 11:04 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				Sergeant 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Jun 2007 
					Location: Atlanta, GA 
					
					
						Posts: 339
					 
					 
	Thanks: 125 
	
		
			
				Thanked 24 Times in 15 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Vampires - you should be afraid of the night
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  Psycho
					 
				 
				I don't know what gave you the idea that life drain is MR. But your tartarian was very badly equiped, that's why he died. With the right equipment, he would of made short work of them (hint: vine shield). 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 I thought vine shield doesn't work against flyers?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				April 3rd, 2009, 01:48 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				Captain 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Jan 2008 
					
					
					
						Posts: 913
					 
					 
	Thanks: 21 
	
		
			
				Thanked 53 Times in 33 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Vampires - you should be afraid of the night
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  fungalreason
					 
				 
				
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  Psycho
					 
				 
				I don't know what gave you the idea that life drain is MR. But your tartarian was very badly equiped, that's why he died. With the right equipment, he would of made short work of them (hint: vine shield). 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 I thought vine shield doesn't work against flyers?  
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 Sure it does.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				April 3rd, 2009, 06:43 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				Lieutenant General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: May 2008 
					Location: Utopia, Oregon 
					
					
						Posts: 2,676
					 
					 
	Thanks: 83 
	
		
			
				Thanked 143 Times in 108 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Vampires - you should be afraid of the night
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  Psycho
					 
				 
				I don't know what gave you the idea that life drain is MR. But your tartarian was very badly equiped, that's why he died. With the right equipment, he would of made short work of them (hint: vine shield). 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 He was very nicely equipped specifically to face your Disintegration spammers, and (I -thought-), your vampires.  Had I known that the Life Drain was not MR, I certainly would not have sent him in there like that.
 
(EDIT - Vine Shield is so overappreciated.  In this specific case, it may have been a better option, but if he could resist the Life Drain, the Lead Shield with the rest of the setup for 31 MR, would have been superb.)  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
 
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
	
		 
		Posting Rules
	 | 
 
	
		
		You may not post new threads 
		You may not post replies 
		You may not post attachments 
		You may not edit your posts 
		 
		
		
		
		
		HTML code is On 
		 
		
	  | 
 
 
	 | 
	
		
	 | 
 
 
     |  
 |