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				 Re: Rookie Questions re Glamour and Patches 
 Glamour has long since been nerfed and it no longer offers any protection from arrows, so yes. Mass composite archers (which TC should already be using with Fire Arrows). |  
	
		
	
	
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				March 13th, 2009, 04:11 PM
			
			
			
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 I believe if you download the patch, it should tell you how to install it.  AFAIK the patches are cumulative: it doesn't matter what version you had beforehand. |  
	
		
	
	
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				March 13th, 2009, 04:40 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by Ewierl  I believe if you download the patch, it should tell you how to install it.  AFAIK the patches are cumulative: it doesn't matter what version you had beforehand. |  
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				March 13th, 2009, 05:30 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by Ewierl  AFAIK the patches are cumulative: it doesn't matter what version you had beforehand. |  That's true, you can install the latest patch from any version you have, you don't need to install each patch itself, one after another. But that's exactly the opposite situation to what I'd call "cumulative". |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by Ewierl  AFAIK the patches are cumulative: it doesn't matter what version you had beforehand. |  That's true, you can install the latest patch from any version you have, you don't need to install each patch itself, one after another. But that's exactly the opposite situation to what I'd call "cumulative". |  I meant that the patches  are cumulative: each one contains all the previous ones, not that you need to install them one after another.  But, yeah, the correct message has been delivered either way   |  
	
		
	
	
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				March 13th, 2009, 07:32 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Rookie Questions re Glamour and Patches 
 Thanks
 All of you.  Your responses were very quick and responsible.
 
 I have a real idiot question for you.  I received an arena summons.  So figuring I wanted to win, I send my pretender.  Heck it was turn two I figured I just reboot if he croaks.  Well, he won alright.  And I got this nifty little two handed trident.  The problem is that the trident is cursed and now I can't get rid of it.
 
 Can I break the curse to get rid of the thing?
 
 Also, what happens when the next arena challenge arrives?  Is my pretender required to go?
 
 How can I get out of it?
 
 Is there a way to send someone else in his place?
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				March 13th, 2009, 07:56 PM
			
			
			
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 It's generally a Very Bad Idea to send your pretender into the arena.
 Until he dies, he will be forced to fight during each arena challenge, and unless he can change shape to something without hands, he'll be hanging on to that trident.
 
 The only way to make him no longer be the champion is to let him die. If you just want to remove the trident, the Transformation alteration nature spell can likely turn him into a handless animal, but that's risky, and he'll probably become much weaker.
 
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 On the plus side, the arena trident is a very nice weapon to be wielding on turn two. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Rookie Questions re Glamour and Patches 
 Just a side note. Once your pretender dies you can get him back by using your priests. Set them to call god. Can take a little while but he comes back.
 In a single player game I got a disease on my pretender. By the time he croaked I had almost 60 priests and got him back in one turn. He did come back with lots of afflictions though.
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