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[Jubala]

For those who think SE4 wasn't finished on release, go buy Braveheart and you'll see unfinished in all it's glory. The game always crashed at a certain ingame date (don't remember how many turns, but not many, between 30 and 50 I think), half the features advertised on the box didn't work or where not even there to not work. The one(two?) patch(es?) released didn't even fix anything, it(they?) simply disabled the features that didn't work resulting in an even more incomplete game. And the AI was so poor that it wasn't much of a challenge to beat the game before it chrashed. I never did it myself as I was disgusted by the frequent crashes but some dedicated fans on the Boards reported doing it. Eventually even they gave up and the board turned into very ugly bash the developer rants. That game is a prime example of creating major hype about a game, then releasing a piss poor product to an unsuspecting public that bought it hook line and sinker while the developers took their money and ran.

Now compare the above with SE4. I rest my case.