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August 13th, 2009, 10:31 AM
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Re: Seiging castles of nations with free summons
If you don't have crumble than you're pretty much screwed. They can last indefinitely, food is not a problem for Pan with all the nature gems, assassinations aren't all that useful either against Pans.
However, Pans enemy number 1 is MIND HUNT!!! Make use of it.
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August 13th, 2009, 11:22 AM
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Re: Seiging castles of nations with free summons
Or you can just skip the storming altogether. Camp out around his forts and preach him to death. If you can eliminate Pan's dominion, all of those maenads will go *POOF* next turn....
Tinkerbell Effect FTW! 
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August 13th, 2009, 03:46 PM
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Re: Seiging castles of nations with free summons
If you cant blood sacrifice, dominion-killing is a very long and mostly futile task, in my experience.
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August 13th, 2009, 06:39 PM
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Re: Seiging castles of nations with free summons
You could try Harvester of Sorrows (with or without a Black Heart) since it bypasses domes. Or you could just, you know, bypass his castle and go take over his provinces. Blood-hunt in his castle province first (= high unrest) to make sure he won't be building any more units behind you.
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August 13th, 2009, 09:14 PM
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Re: Seiging castles of nations with free summons
Hmm, Ermor can be nasty. Been sitting on a castle of them with their god and a large army in it for 10+turns before it fell. With gate cleavers...
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August 14th, 2009, 05:33 AM
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Re: Seiging castles of nations with free summons
It's not that bad: undead have massively reduced siege effectiveness, so an Ermorian fort with even hundreds inside can be relatively easily overwhelmed.
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August 14th, 2009, 05:57 AM
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Re: Seiging castles of nations with free summons
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Blood-hunt in his castle province first (= high unrest) to make sure he won't be building any more units behind you.
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Blood hunting in province with enemy castle is impossible. Maybe shift-b trick works though but it is an exploit if so.
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August 14th, 2009, 10:31 AM
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Re: Seiging castles of nations with free summons
Seige and preach, or blood sacrifice, or bring in stone idols. It'll be your best option if you can't crumble or anything. If your nation has horrible preachers and no crumble...heh. Leave the province and keep casting assassination remotes and stuff? The undead part isn't too, too hard thanks to the whole 1/10th defense value. The Pans though... If you are seiging a random Ermor fort and can get it into your dominion, Purgatory should (I think, I'll need to test it) work.
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August 14th, 2009, 12:07 PM
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Re: Seiging castles of nations with free summons
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Originally Posted by ano
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Blood-hunt in his castle province first (= high unrest) to make sure he won't be building any more units behind you.
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Blood hunting in province with enemy castle is impossible. Maybe shift-b trick works though but it is an exploit if so.
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When did that change? *PILLAGING* is impossible if the enemy holds the fort, but Blood Hunting isn't, or didn't used to be anyway.
-Max
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August 15th, 2009, 05:05 AM
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Re: Seiging castles of nations with free summons
I am sorry for my mistake. Blood hunting is indeed possible but pillaging is not.
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