Real life star trek in the making

[Jmenschenfresser]

The actual workings of it aren't really a transporter are they? Or am I functionally illiterate?

They destroy you on one end, and then recreate you on the other end, but not using the same matter.

If so, couldn't you make copies of yourself?

Like a print screen.

Number of Copies: 5
At: 150% of original.

[Wardad]

Originally posted by Jmenschenfresser:
...If so, couldn't you make copies of yourself?

Like a print screen.

Number of Copies: 5
At: 150% of original.

Enlarge What???

[AeoN2]

Originally posted by Jmenschenfresser:
Number of Copies: 5
At: 150% of original.

LOL... but I think I'll stay away until I can download celebreties from warez sites

(What I wouldn't give for a Christina Aguillera copy to walk around my place cleaning )

[Wardad]

[quote]Originally posted by AeoN2:

... (What I wouldn't give for a Christina Aguillera copy to walk around my place cleaning )

Can we interest you in our Stepford model?

[Bman]

Yes the original is destroyed. If I remember the basic principal correctly, it is something like this:

You take 2 sets of quantumly entangled particles. Put one set at the "sender" and the other set at the "receiver". Each of the particles at the receiver is attached to a bunch of spare particles (think of it as spare parts ). Now someone, we'll call him Aaron , comes up and steps into the sender. One of the entangled particles is attached to each of his particles. Now each of his particles is manipulate (its spin and velocity are changed--I think it is changed to mimic the spare particle over at the receiver). This causes the particle attached to it to change in some predictable manner. This causes its entangled particle over at the receiver to change predictably (I think exactly the opposite of the entangled particle at the sender). This causes the "spare particle" attached to it to undergo the opposite change as Aaron's particle, thus ending up as a duplicate of Aaron's particle. Then you just unattach the particles and send the new Aaron on his way. Take the old mangled Aaron and throw him in the spare parts bin for when someone wants to come back.

Anyways...I remember reading a book where the transporter technology made a copy of you instead of destroying you. If I remember it correctly, they used it as either a punishment for crimes or maybe it was how you earned a living...I can't remember. But basically they would ship these transporter-receivers off on colony ships to far away planets while everyone stayed at home on earth. Then people would have to goto the transporter and then step off and go about their business. But a copy of them would appear at the receiver on the crappy hellish colony world where they would work as slaves. Quite interesting. I haven't thought of that book in over 10 years. I wish I remember what it was.

Originally posted by Jmenschenfresser:
The actual workings of it aren't really a transporter are they? Or am I functionally illiterate?

They destroy you on one end, and then recreate you on the other end, but not using the same matter.

If so, couldn't you make copies of yourself?

Like a print screen.

Number of Copies: 5
At: 150% of original.

[AeoN2]

And the philosophical question would be "Will I keep my own consciousness after being transported?"

Since every atom gets identically duplicated, I would expect the person having been transported to say "Sure, I feel exactly the same"

But the question would still be, "Would I still be me? or would I die to let someone identical to me with my experiences live? is there a soul?"

And ofcourse the next and even more interesting possiblity would be the hacked transporter machines that didn't destroy the original, instead duplicating a person (I can see many evil uses of this possibility)

EDIT: or did the original have to be destroyed to transport?

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AeoN2
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Inside every small problem is a large problem struggling to get out.

[ June 20, 2002, 12:44: Message edited by: AeoN2 ]

[Dracus]

It is the start of the idea. the first ic was not really an ic either. I see it everyday hanging in our display case in the jack kilby building.

[geoschmo]

Dracus,

True to a point, the first integrated circuit does not compare to what we have today, and it may not have even been very integrated, but at least it was a circuit.

But this isn't really the same thing. There are fundamental differences between what this breakthrough actually is and what the press and the uneducated among us think of with Sci Fi.

This "transporter" really isn't. It's more of a 3 dimensional fax machine. But that would not make the papers or the evening news.

It's a great thing, and has many possible applications, but it ain't transporter.

Geoschmo

[capnq]

There was a series of stories by Ray Brown in _Analog_ in the '80s, in which such a teleportation system played an important part.

The thing that bothered me the most about these news stories was repeated mentions that the process destroyed and recreated the laser, when they obviously meant the laser beam.

[ June 21, 2002, 01:50: Message edited by: capnq ]

[Dracus]

Yes, it is not going to be a transporter like on star trek due to many facts which I could go into in great detail but will not. The idea of transporting non living matter by copying is a cool idea in it self.
I just thought it was a cool article and decided to share it.

[ June 21, 2002, 03:30: Message edited by: Dracus ]