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September 24th, 2009, 03:25 AM
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Re: Transport for U.S. Patriot Units-Update!
 So here I am, just finished battle #2 as the USMC vs Russia. Completed the repair phase, changed a couple units, punched out and the AI wants me to play against Iran (One of my standard 17-21 gen battle campaigns over a years time.) for B3. Shop for support units and thought let me check out what the Marines are using for SAM Batteries (Patriots yes I know.) They come in two choices static (WRONG) and with prime movers (RIGHT) as I discussed above and in my original Patriot Transport post. As far as the U.S. is concerned normally the USA gets all the new toys before the USMC gets them. This just looks like an oversight issue and I would think it might be an easy fix(?) so that like the Dutch and the USMC, that all countries that possess the Patriot have the same capability as again referred to above. Just a thought with all due respect. Wished I could've caught this sooner, as mentioned in the MRAP post I've just never played this game using the USMC until this week after all these years.
With Regards and a Good Night,
Pat 
P.S. Andy I do remember the post in the MRAP one where you indiciated this would be reviewed for the Winter. Can see if others already have the transport option available in the game beside the Dutch and USMC?
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September 26th, 2009, 11:31 AM
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Re: Transport for U.S. Patriot Units-Update!
Good Morning! Some pictures as provided by GlobalSecurity.org.
 M983 with M860A1 Semi, note this system can be left unmanned and still be launched via data link (DLC) from a launch station.
 This is the M985E1 its purpose is to provide resupply to Patriot Batteries in the field. It has it's own integral crane for transfer of the Patriots with a carry capacity of four missiles. It is designated as a Guided Missile hauler.
Hope this is useful.
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September 26th, 2009, 11:40 AM
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Re: Transport for U.S. Patriot Units-Update!
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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH
Good Morning! Some pictures as provided by GlobalSecurity.org.
Attachment 8870 M983 with M860A1 Semi, note this system can be left unmanned and still be launched via data link (DLC) from a launch station.
Attachment 8869 This is the M985E1 its purpose is to provide resupply to Patriot Batteries in the field. It has it's own integral crane for transfer of the Patriots with a carry capacity of four missiles. It is designated as a Guided Missile hauler.
Hope this is useful.
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Not really, for SP.
A SAM element simply is a representative element for the launcher. It is carried by a heavy truck (as patriots will be when we sort the carry cost).
The element can be assumed to contain any number of auxiliary vehicles, not represented in the game. All the game needs is something that launches a SAM. We don't care a whit if Sam-X has 2 APU vehicles, a tea trolley and 2 different fire control radars. Those are unnecessary detail that the game abstracts. Nor does SP have any concept of battery fire control, for SAM or arty. The launcher is "it" for game purposes, as is the individual "self-plotting" field gun for on-map indirect arty.
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September 27th, 2009, 01:17 AM
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Re: Transport for U.S. Patriot Units-Update!

Andy,
Fully understand the need for "KISS" from the software and more importantly the play of the game. Just wanted to "illustrate" the point I was trying to make earlier in regard to the operational importance of the transport unit to the launcher and it's operation. It's all good!
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April 15th, 2010, 01:42 AM
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Re: Transport for U.S. Patriot Units-Update!
Just thought it made sense to post further PATRIOT Pac-3/MEADS info here as some info has come to light in the testing area. This IS NOT to rehash old issues which I believe have been resolved in the 5.0 patch.
First a more recent overview of both programs:
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/meads/
And an update reported this month on the testing program:
http://www.defense-update.com/produc...2010.html#more
Pics:

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May 2nd, 2010, 01:40 AM
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Re: Transport for U.S. Patriot Units-Update!
MEADS in trouble? A little light reading that touchs on issues that have been discussed in threads before concerning new or joint weapons development issues.
http://www.defpro.com/daily/details/561/ this is from a fairly new source for me I've added to my arsenal.
Enjoy and have a great weekend!!
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May 6th, 2010, 06:39 PM
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Re: Transport for U.S. Patriot Units-Update!
I was wondering for the next patch if we could have pictures and icons of the HEMTT trucks for the US heavy truck. The current icons seem to be of a generic deuce and a half. Thanks
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