PaK 97/38

sturmovik · #1 October 6th, 2009, 09:50 PM

Thank you all for the confirmation. Someone might want to review the ammo load outs on Axis Pak 97 AT-gun units. They are heavily weighted to standard AP instead of HEAT.

DRG · #2 October 7th, 2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sturmovik

Thank you all for the confirmation. Someone might want to review the ammo load outs on Axis Pak 97 AT-gun units.

There is only ONE Pak 97/38 in the game and it's in the German OOB. If you believe there are others please detail which OOB and which unit number

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Originally Posted by sturmovik

They are heavily weighted to standard AP instead of HEAT.

"Heavily weighted" ??? Given that one unit has an ammo loadout of ...

30 HE
22 AP
23 HEAT

How do you figure 23 HEAT vs 22 AP makes that "heavily weighted to standard AP" ??? If it was 35 AP and 10 HEAT I could see your point. I can even see that there may be a point to be made that there should be a bit more HEAT and a bit less AP ( perhaps 30 HEAT and 15 AP ) but I am at loss to see how anyone could say the existing ammo loadout is "Heavily weighted" in favour of AP over HEAT unless they are naturally given to exaggeration

Don

sturmovik · #3 October 8th, 2009, 12:58 AM

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There is only ONE Pak 97/38 in the game and it's in the German OOB. If you believe there are others please detail which OOB and which unit number

Romania OB 39
Unit 200 40 AP 10 HEAT
Unit 206 45 AP 5 HEAT

Hungary OB 38
Unit 031 40 AP 5 HEAT
Unit 174 50 AP 0 HEAT

Czechoslovakia OB 37
Unit 080 30 AP 0 HEAT

Finland OB 35
Unit 043 40 AP 0 HEAT

Italy OB 34
Unit 102 40 AP 10 HEAT

Bulgaria OB 19
Unit 85 40 AP 0 HEAT

Slovak Republic OB 01
Unit 80 30 AP 0 HEAT

I mean its plausible that the Germans foisted off their stocks of Polish and French AP ammo onto their allies (if that is what the OBs are trying to indicate), but given that the HEAT shell production numbers appear to be valid I would say that the Pak 97/38 was primarily a HEAT weapon and should have few if any AP rounds be it Germany or second tier powers.

BTW, check out the 20549 lbm. It seems like a much clearer depiction of the weapon than the default 209 lbm.