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Old October 9th, 2009, 08:09 AM
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Default Re: M10, Wolverine, Achilles Self-Propelled Guns

I’ve looked at a few more photos of the Achilles, and I don’t see a clear case for a covered turret.

You can identify the Achilles 17Pdr, from other tank destroyers/self-propelled guns, by the large muzzle brake and the counter-weight just behind it.

The two photos in the OP could have been a field mod. The additional armour looks the same in both photos, but perhaps it’s photos of the same vehicle, or an Achilles field modded by the same workshop.

I did find another site/source that talks about the extra 17mm and 20mm plates, but they suggest the 20mm was just added to the front of the turret top, not covering the whole turret.

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http://www.wwiiequipment.com/index.p...anks&Itemid=57



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Default Re: M10, Wolverine, Achilles Self-Propelled Guns

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I did find another site/source that talks about the extra 17mm and 20mm plates, but they suggest the 20mm was just added to the front of the turret top, not covering the whole turret.

Here:

http://www.wwiiequipment.com/index.p...anks&Itemid=57



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Note that under Achilles in their data list there is nothing entered for top armour. I think all they did was weld a bullet shield to the top of the turret to help protect the crew. It's not an "additional" 20 mm, it's just 20mm of steel where none existed before

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Note that under Achilles in their data list there is nothing entered for top armour. I think all they did was weld a bullet shield to the top of the turret to help protect the crew. It's not an "additional" 20 mm, it's just 20mm of steel where none existed before

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