How is it possible to raid without retreat ability?

Ragnarok · #1 June 25th, 2002, 06:54 AM

I agree with what Puke has to say about it. They had to rush to meet the deadline they did have for Gold so that might be one reason of many that they did not impliment it into Gold.

Another reason may be realisim(sp). In a actual fight were you got two sides if one side backs down the other advances, so they'd be the same distance apart unless one was faster. Thus retreating would get you no where but further away from the start of the battle. Unless you look at it likes this, in space/sci-fi type of shows/games, ships have faster then speed engines. So if the retreating party engaged their engines they cuold've gained enough ground on their pursuer that in effect they would have "retreated". Because unless the enemy is faster then you are you would maintain a large enough distance to keep out of firing range and thus effectivly retreat".

That's just one of many ways to look at it. I probably confused you all with that. It's late here so most likely I did confuse you. But who knows why Aaron didn't add it to Gold. We can only hope he puts it in the next patch for Gold.

Phoenix-D · #2 June 25th, 2002, 07:27 AM

You can raid- but you have to raid differently. Hit the mildly defended targets, or park just outside his reach and make him nervous.

Phoenix-D

Rollo · #3 June 25th, 2002, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by Ragnarok:
Yes, we ALL want the retreat option back...

No we don't.(edit, better said: no, not all of us). IMHO the retreat in SEIII was a PITA. Hunting down single ships multiple times until you have them in the systems corner or surrounded by single ships of your own is just not fun. Haven't really put much thought to it, but in simultaneous move a retreat could really screw up things. I prefer having no retreat.

Rollo

[ June 25, 2002, 09:32: Message edited by: Rollo ]

Q · #4 June 25th, 2002, 10:50 AM

Rollo at least we are two with that opinion!
Me too, I do not miss the retreat option at all.

Mephisto · #5 June 25th, 2002, 10:51 AM

I back Rollo and Q. In SE3 you had to chase the enemy into a corner in the system map. Where is the difference to chasing him into a corner in the battle map?

Taera · #6 June 25th, 2002, 11:17 AM

perharps specialized component with high cost, tech level etc. etc would solve the problem, plus inserting, some cheaper to some of the racial traits, like Temporal races

Ragnarok · #7 June 25th, 2002, 03:31 PM

Rollo and Q are correct. But, B-U-T-T... If I'm not mistaken in SEII only the attacker had the option to retreat. Thus the enemy would HAVE to fight it out unless you (the attacker) retreat. Or is that what you guys mean as well? Because if the enemy could retreat on command as well then that'd be just stupid. Then the fights would basically never have an end, and no empire would win. So as long as the retreat option would be for the attacker then yes I would love to have it back.

I like what Taera said too, having a special componate that allows you to retreat or not. But then again that brings up the issue I just got done talking about. Because if it's a componate then that would mean the enemy being attacked if they had the componate all they'd have to do is use it and the battle is over. So they'd have to make it so only the attacker with the componate could retreat.

[ June 25, 2002, 14:33: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]