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December 31st, 2009, 01:59 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
@Hermit,
Andy's right....LMAO! Don't be a moron. Use the compromise solution realistically. You can get away with that exploit against the cpu BUT a human will probably come back to Shrap Forums and BLAST you in a post. I know from experience. I was done like that once as a newbie.
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December 31st, 2009, 04:07 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
I was not aware of the "compromise." I did a little checking after reading your posts. It appears a Chinook can carry 13.5 tons on it's main hook, and included in the text is its ability to carry large (155mm) artillery pieces -
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/chinook/
I also saw this picture of an old army helo carrying what appears to be a decent sized piese of SPA.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...r-lifting-tank
But, as I have now been informed, I didn't see any tanks being lifted (although I know the Sheridan was designed specifically for this purpose)
Thanks for setting me straight!
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December 31st, 2009, 08:39 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
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But, as I have now been informed, I didn't see any tanks being lifted (although I know the Sheridan was designed specifically for this purpose)
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Thought designed to be supposedly air dropable not helo transportable weight something like 17 tons
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January 2nd, 2010, 12:16 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
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Originally Posted by Imp
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But, as I have now been informed, I didn't see any tanks being lifted (although I know the Sheridan was designed specifically for this purpose)
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Thought designed to be supposedly air dropable not helo transportable weight something like 17 tons
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They were intended to be air dropable.
I know they've done tests dumping them out of aircraft but to the best of my knowledge it's never been done outside of the tests.
I do believe there are a FEW civilian heavy lift helos (used for construction) that could pick one up, but nothing in the military inventory can.
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January 4th, 2010, 01:03 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
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Originally Posted by Suhiir
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Originally Posted by Imp
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But, as I have now been informed, I didn't see any tanks being lifted (although I know the Sheridan was designed specifically for this purpose)
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Thought designed to be supposedly air dropable not helo transportable weight something like 17 tons
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They were intended to be air dropable.
I know they've done tests dumping them out of aircraft but to the best of my knowledge it's never been done outside of the tests.
I do believe there are a FEW civilian heavy lift helos (used for construction) that could pick one up, but nothing in the military inventory can.
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You're right, air droppable, not helo liftable. But FYI, the CH-53E Super Stallion can lift 17.8 tons:
http://www.history.navy.mil/planes/ch53.htm
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January 4th, 2010, 03:01 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
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Originally Posted by Hermit
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Originally Posted by Suhiir
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Originally Posted by Imp
Thought designed to be supposedly air dropable not helo transportable weight something like 17 tons
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They were intended to be air dropable.
I know they've done tests dumping them out of aircraft but to the best of my knowledge it's never been done outside of the tests.
I do believe there are a FEW civilian heavy lift helos (used for construction) that could pick one up, but nothing in the military inventory can.
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You're right, air droppable, not helo liftable. But FYI, the CH-53E Super Stallion can lift 17.8 tons:
http://www.history.navy.mil/planes/ch53.htm
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I suppose they could fuel and load ammo in them after they're lifted someplace 
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January 4th, 2010, 07:01 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
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I do believe there are a FEW civilian heavy lift helos (used for construction) that could pick one up, but nothing in the military inventory can
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Off topic but always wondered how they get the crane out once they have built the building round it, is this the solution?
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January 4th, 2010, 11:30 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
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Originally Posted by Imp
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I do believe there are a FEW civilian heavy lift helos (used for construction) that could pick one up, but nothing in the military inventory can
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Off topic but always wondered how they get the crane out once they have built the building round it, is this the solution?
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Nope, the cranes are modular, they just disassemble them.
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January 10th, 2010, 04:00 AM
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I do believe there are a FEW civilian heavy lift helos (used for construction) that could pick one up, but nothing in the military inventory can.
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The Mi-26 can carry 20 tons, even a bit more in a pinch.
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January 11th, 2010, 12:31 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
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I do believe there are a FEW civilian heavy lift helos (used for construction) that could pick one up, but nothing in the military inventory can.
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The Mi-26 can carry 20 tons, even a bit more in a pinch.
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While 20 tons would allow it to move most APC/IFV's I can't think of a single "real" tank that weighs in at less then about 40-45 tons. And since the discussion was about helo lifting tanks...
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