Nations under CBM 1.6

[WraithLord]

The problem is not the price on hunters. It's lack of synergy.

Your plan sounds ok. I'd even give it a try in a few SP test games. The thing is that no matter how you turn it Machaka still remains a weak nation IMO. I think their mages should be boosted or they should get some unique (sacred --> for bless) summons.

[Mardagg]

Originally Posted by WraithLord

The problem is not the price on hunters. It's lack of synergy.

Your plan sounds ok. I'd even give it a try in a few SP test games. The thing is that no matter how you turn it Machaka still remains a weak nation IMO. I think their mages should be boosted or they should get some unique (sacred --> for bless) summons.

My build synergizes great for early game expansion.
I believe this is what makes Machaka strong now.
U believe its the mages.
I dont agree there since u are lacking Astral and Blood.
U want to cut on the weaknesses ,I want to emphazize on the strengths.
Both are valid approaches in general.

boosting their mages will not happen,QM said that.Its not thematic and they are good enough considering they got the spider form for quite a big survivabilty in huge battles.
What i would like to see is making the assassin non cap only.
But that probably not thematic,too.
Increase the PD at least.
I believe Machaka to be pretty good now,if are able to include the 33% decrease in cost for the sacred in your strat somehow.

[Mardagg]

Jarkko,i only need my capital for the first 12-14 turns so to speak.Once u reach the critical mass of Hunters u dont desparately need to produce them every turn anymore.

Shamans at least u should get,no?
Getting even more lucky with other sites,is at least possible.
u can always paint scenarios on how to crush certain builds.
How do you want do stop 2 hunter armies,E9N4 blessed,16 hunters each,showing up on your borders January Year 2?
Now u can find 1-2 or nations able to do that.
Maybe 1-2 more if they would known before the game that they start as a neigbour of me,using that strat.

@vfb

man.
So first u are telling me the spider is equally good offensive.Now,that u agree the rider has double Number of attack per turn and higher strength for the bite attack,meaning a LOT more offensive power since u are getting swarmed(=battle last quite some time),u just say: no,i am not excited about the spears.
How about saying: Hey,sorry, I was wrong!

You know what,we will see what the future will bring.
Probably it will need some MP Machaka wins or some lost battles vs Machaka for some of you guys until you agree.
Or it will prove ,i was wrong.
Certainly,though,no one of you guys did brought up points that let me to rethink my soon to be MP plan.

Lets move on,...how about MA Abysia now

[vfb]

Originally Posted by Mardagg

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@vfb

man.
So first u are telling me the spider is equally good offensive.Now,that u agree the rider has double Number of attack per turn and higher strength for the bite attack,meaning a LOT more offensive power since u are getting swarmed(=battle last quite some time),u just say: no,i am not excited about the spears.
How about saying: Hey,sorry, I was wrong!
...

Oh, thanks.

Yeah, the Spiders get two attacks too, since the 2nd web attack does not depend on the 1st attack doing damage. So, you see a lot more webs too, in spider form. The higher attack in spider form helps too. Glad you finally agree!

[Mardagg]

Originally Posted by vfb

Oh, thanks.

Yeah, the Spiders get two attacks too, since the 2nd web attack does not depend on the 1st attack doing damage. So, you see a lot more webs too, in spider form. The higher attack in spider form helps too. Glad you finally agree!

wow,yeah!How could i forgot that.
Now,is totally obvious that they are at the very least equally powerful as the rider.
Wow,man,i suck.you owned me,man,totally.