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Old January 6th, 2010, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: Nations under CBM 1.6

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What I want to achieve: I don't want to pay upkeep for my spider horde, that's what I want.

You said spider MR was less than average, and that's wrong, because it's exactly average.

And I do want E+S on my god for the late game. I never said S9. Obviously you are joking about that, since S9 is for low-prot jags/vestals, not for a high-HP regenerating beast.

I don't understand why you say that you only want to concentrate on the early game. You don't even need E9 in the early game, unless you are trying to get all your Black Hunters to survive to the midgame in rider form. If all you want to do is expand in the early game, take an A3W3E3F3N3D3B3S3 bless, that will do you just fine.

If you must know, I'm using a E4N4S4B4 bless.

How well does that work, versus E9N4?

Well, a few more spiders will be in spider form instead of having riders. Damn you riders, die! So you'll still have to fork out some monthly cash for their pensions. But not as much as if they all had riders.

Your god will have done some nice site-searching for you, it's not like you need him fighting. E4N4S4B4 is not all you get with a rainbow, so he can find sites with a minor path like W too. He'll be able to forge lots of nice items, summon some golems, maybe throw in a few surpises here and there. He can make all the rings you want. He can actually dispel stuff.
for the record,i said MR is still low.
What i meant by low i did make clear in my last post.
U didnt say at any point in your posts what you are using for magic paths ,u were just randomly nitpicking on my statements,even giving away just plain wrong game info here and there.Overseeing the spear and the much lower strength on the Spider form,just let me to the conclusion you have no idea what you are talking about,at that time.
the spider bite will penetrate alot more often the opponents armor on the rider form,thus triggering the death poison more often.
The fangs of the spider form dont web,JUST LOOK AT THE GAME ONE TIME.So both forms got exactly 1 chance to web.Excuse if i understand your statement there wrong,it was a little confusing.
Your build is interesting.
Sombre came up with that point much earlier though and i did agree.It helps to read the whole thread before posting.
Your build is interesting but much inferior to E9N4 for early game purposes.Just test it and then compare.I did this tests already months ago,when CBM1.6 came out.
E4N4S4x4 awake pretender means worse scales and worse early expansion than my build,using imprisoned pretender.
U solve the S problem though,which i can only solve with having luck.Some riders die,some still dont for you.Its not much upkeep u got less there.Your offensive power for fights vs humans is considerable less though with spiders only.
For midgame though,imagine you got mostly spiders, I got mostly riders.Essentially my troops can survive a lot longer simply bc of the 2 shapes.
Also having Protection 20 is a lot worse than 24.Ive encountered those 4 points of armor make a huge difference in the MA.
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Old January 6th, 2010, 12:31 PM
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Come Mardagg, I invite you to use this build in the next MP game I host (after first Sharivar ends). Let's see how it holds up against non newb human players. I'm truly interested in the results and not being sarcastic, condescending or any some such.
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Old January 6th, 2010, 12:42 PM
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i am absolutely sure we will meet somewhere in the future

Currently i am doing well in both of my MP games,gotta wait until i am down to 1 game.
I will host a game then,MA standard settings,you are very much invited.
Maybe,just maybe,i will have the surprise effect again then at that time...because atm every non newb would know before the game starts what i am up for.

Actually i am very unhappy about how everyone knows my build beforehand now and especially about how the discussion unfolded.
I should never have posted in detail here
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Old January 6th, 2010, 01:13 PM
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looking forward to meeting you in the future

And hey, everyone knows that Mictlan's optimal/popular build is dual+ bless usually s9f9 or that the giant bless nations like E9N6. That doesn't make them weak, not even remotely.
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