Devnull Mod Gold: updates and discussion

[mac5732]

In playing sp, I found that the Sonne needs a little tweaking, they are not very strong and could use a boost to get on par with the rest of the AI's, IMHO only. I tried several games and they did not fare very well. I like the race and think its a great enhancement to the game but could use a little boost and make them a little tougher.... MHO only

just some ideas Mac

[Cirvol]

is the gold upto 1.7 now?

what about the devnull4 game? i just signed up

please fill me in?

[mac5732]

SE4 gold is up to 1.84, Delv mod is at 1.70

just some ideas mac

[Silent Sorrow]

[never mind]

[ July 27, 2003, 17:59: Message edited by: Silent Sorrow ]

[Rollo]

Binford - Hey, good to see that Devnull4 PBW game attracted so many players. I won't be able to join, though. Can't handle a large game with short game turns at the moment.

1FSTCAT - Currently changing the tech tree is not an option, since it will mean rework of the AI (again). If you want better sensors, try taking psychic-temporal combo.
Adding a new mount for long range can be considered, though. What kind of ship class did you have in mind for using it?
Heavy Bombardment Missle is already on the list for review the weapons. Along with Grav Hellbores and Incinerator Beam. Expect some changes to it in the next Version (whenever that will be...) .

Mac - Can you be more specific about the Sonne AI? Where exactly are they lacking? Any suboptimal designs or tactics? In my tests when develop them they did pretty good. And I also got good feedback for them so far. Any hints are helpful, if I am to tweak them.

Cirvol - yep, 1.70 is the current released Version.

My apologies for things going slow. But it is summer afterall .

Rollo

[mac5732]

Rollo, following observations in friends 7 games and my on going lst SP game ( all were SP games)

Sonne

1. appears their ability to build ships is limited. the speed in which they build appears somewhat slower the the rest example. human/Ai players build DN in 6 turns, takes Sonne 12, gives human player advantage in numbers. Appears their build cycles are almost twice as long as the other AI's and human player

2. Ship design little weak, they use almost all psy weapons, could use some other big weapons to help out

3. research ability slower then rest. Human/other Ai's have BB's & Dn's, Sonne had CA's

4. Don't appear to build Super DN's, Monitors and super monitors (havn't seen them in the 8 games played so far

Cuppa

1. seem weaker then in 1.84 original, not as fiesty or as strong. appear weaker and weaker in ship production as well, they don't build their ships in the quantities of 1.84. nor are they as strong

Flora

1. weak in intel especialy defensive, easy to steal against

General

Don't see the Ai building Super DN's, monitors or super Monitors, so far very rare if at all, IE' in my Sp game, the Ai"s are using mostly BB's no Dn's etc, as their later on basic warship, gives human player huge advantage, In my game I can see most of the map, however I have only seen l super DN among the 6 races, all the ships/fleets made up of BB's as their big gun ship.

Would like to see AI's use different make ups on their ships, IE different types of BB's some with one kind of weapons, another BB with other types thrown in. (same with all ship designs)

Please these are only my observations, IT's a great mod and I love playing it especially with all the new stuff, this is not in any way shape or form knocking the mod, only observations so far and I could be wrong, (it wouldn't be the lst time ) please don't take my observations in any wrong way... Myself and Mac's trouble makers all really enjoy the game

just some ideas Mac

[Cirvol]

whats considered to be 'unbalanced' currently in terms of racial special techs?

i notice that some 'extra special' stuff comes up when you combine 2 of the big ones...

like org + relig
or psy + tempo
etc etc

what is everyones opinion on the balance?