Can someone tell me about Machaka? - Page 5

vfb · #41 February 17th, 2010, 12:53 AM

The fetish is mindless and will die on turn 50, he won't run away. I don't think a berserker pelt will do anything at all (except replace his steel plate armor)

For expansion against indies, you could give him 5D for fear. But Machaka does not need an awake god to expand, it's got spiders. So A is probably good, especially since it gives you Rain of Stones, always nice to have.

I think a frost brand (if you can get your hands on one somehow) or snake bladder, plus a charcoal shield, will work better than trampling, if you want to trapeze around and fight stuff.

It's like a cheaper EA cyclops, that can't be mind hunted.

Maerlande · #42 February 17th, 2010, 02:18 AM

I decided to reply to this thread.

No I can't tell you about Machaka. I don't know anything about them.

rdonj · #43 February 17th, 2010, 02:20 AM

IIRC units that are berserk will fight on until round 75 instead of the normal 50 rounds before fleeing. So it would buy you more time.

Maerlande · #44 February 17th, 2010, 02:23 AM

Hey rdonj
Stop chasing my trolling posts you silly noob!

rdonj · #45 February 17th, 2010, 02:30 AM

No wai!

Jarkko · #46 February 17th, 2010, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by vfb

Magma Bolts are not AoE, so they are probably blockable by a shield, and may be treated as a missile for the purposes of whether they hit the target (even when they land in the square the target is in).

You are probably right, thank you for pointing this out

Jarkko · #47 February 17th, 2010, 03:05 AM

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Black Sorcerer F3

+2 pen rod+flaming helm+eyeof the void+spell focus

Phoenix power + Blindness ( pen + 7)

This looks better and research lower.

Torin, excuse me, but looks better for what? As far as I know just Rage and Hydrophobia are the only fire spell requiring a MR check, so I think you are not refering to them. I must be missing something obvious here but I don't understand what

Fail your DRN Jarkko?

I certainly did

However, I definitively need more coffee to understand the why this would be a good thing anyway. Would you really put expensive items (requiring paths Machaka does not have) on a squishy black sorceror to be able to cast a Range 15 spell which is usable against single SC's only? And if it is a trampling SC or a SC with some damaging aura, you got pretty much nothing for the effort.

If I had all those items available, I'd use Shadow Bolts to paralyze the SC. Long range, and even if the bolts don't kill the target, a paralyzed target is a dead target. Sure, will end up with lower +Penetration ("just" +5), but on the other hand you can use the spell even when the SC is still buffing up.

But as I said, I definitively need more coffee to get my brains awoke.

Squirrelloid · #48 February 17th, 2010, 08:59 AM

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Yes, but won't heroes blade and quickness kill a cyclops too? I don't see... I don't see how that makes him so weak.

Really, he died to blessed woodsmen? I wonder why, maybe he was out of his dominion?

Woodsman are pretty strong, so punch through protection regularly and for big damage. And, not that that particular colossal fetish was trampling, but at size 4 they're quite resistant to trampling - i doubt you'd lose a single woodsman to the fetish before it died.

IMO cyclops is kind of a crap SC once you're fighting real players. I've killed many of them with ease.

BigDaddy · #49 February 17th, 2010, 11:52 AM

Yes, I suppose. I've killed many early and mid-game SCs with Emerald Guard squads. Their skills are good and they pack better than serpent cataphracts, but I think it's their morale that really does the trick.

chrispedersen · #50 February 17th, 2010, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vfb

Rings of regen and "lots and lots of forts" are not a good expansion strategy.

Says who?