WinSPww2 v4.0 Bug? Artillery don't show up as artilley

Stonefire · #10 February 23rd, 2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DRG

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Originally Posted by Stonefire

Now I understand why they don't appear in the artillery menu, but then I must claim that this classification dosn't make sense.
335 is the germans 15cm sIG 33 and in the german OOB 016 unit 097 it is classified as Class 154. (but in the Greek OOB 031 unit 047 also representing the 15cm sIG 33 it is also class 16)

Can someone explain to me why those guns only shouldn't be in class 154.

Becasuse it's the USE the guns are put to by the various armies that are different.

In the Italian OOB the 15cm sIG 33 is only used as a direct fire infantry gun ( UC 16 ) but in the Greek OOB it's used as both UC 16 AND UC 154 ....

users of weapon ID 78 15cm sIG 33:
047 - 150mm Field Gun - uClass 016 : slot 1 - Available 06/036 to 05/041
293 - 150mm Field Gun - uClass 016 : slot 1 - Available 01/046 to 12/046
323 - 150mm Mtn Gun - uClass 154 : slot 1 - Available 06/036 to 05/041
327 - 150mm Mtn Gun - uClass 154 : slot 1 - Available 01/046 to 12/046

and in the German OOB it's ONLY used as UC 154 so can be indirect fired.

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Originally Posted by Stonefire

Unit 333 in the Italian OOB 034 is the Ansaldo 149L17 and in the unit date it is shown that it has a minimum range of 60!

NO it does not. That second numbers does NOT always indicate "minimum" range. It also indicates MAXIMUM range depending on the circumstances

That weapon is used in these two units as UC 16 ( direct fire only )in the Italian OOB

333 - Cannone 149L17 - uClass 016 : slot 1 - Available 06/035 to 02/042
367 - Cannone 149L17 - uClass 016 : slot 1 - Available 03/042 to 06/043

367 has "sabot" ammo. When it's a gun like this "sabot" = AP ammo so it has limited anti tank capability and we limit the range to 60 so that someone doesn't fire AP ammo to the max range the gun is rated for and 60 is as far as you're ever going to fire a UC 16 Direct LOS Infantry gun anyway

That weapon is also used by.........

028 - Cannon Montagna - uClass 154 : slot 1 - Available 06/035 to 06/043

When it's used indirect as UC 154 it will happily target indirect exactly the same way any other indirect fire gun will work. That "60" is ignored becasue it's UC 154 In this case it will allow indirect targeting from 11-144 hexes from the gun which is all perfectly normal

Don

Hi Don - thank you for a good explanation - I have played this game and its variations since SP 1 replaced Norm Kogers Wargame Construction Set II:TANKS on my harddrive, but it is first time I came across this situation. I'm sorry it coincidenced with the release of v4 - I apologise the bug mentioned in the headline of this thread - but please notice the ? behind it.

Regards
Jesper/Stonefire