Scenario: NaV II, MP game or Scenario

[Gandalf Parker]

It doesnt have to be just a map. Dom3 has lots of "just maps" and "just mods" and "just game settings" that you can dive into. But when you extend them with story and more challenge and some flair then thats what games consider a Scenario or a Campaign.

I think the NaV games are a great example of going beyond the usual king-of-the-hill games. As for appropriate? Im afraid that Im the reason there is scenario on this forum. But it was an early recommendation before I realized it was so broken in Dom3. Later the Scenario tag was added as a way of limiting searches to appropriate results. I think the NaV game should be in the MP directory, and tagged MP. Im not sure that anyone who is looking for scenario will feel its correct to land on the NaV game. Particularly long after its over.

There are a few efforts at what I would consider scenario or campains but like I said its pretty broken IMHO. It doesnt even work as well as it did in Dom2. Id like to see more of them but many of the needed components only work if done manually from a server so its more of a way to run an MP game than it is a downloadable thing you can run thru yourself.

[Septimius Severus]

Thanks Blackguard and Gandalf. Yes, I can understand why some might say NaV II does qualify or seems more scenario like than most of your run of mill MP games what with custom AI pretenders, magic items, starting troops, pre-placed units, hand placed magic sites, pre-made teams and specstarts, specially modified provinces, a storyline and themes, thematic pretender choices, a human played mercenary nation, "The Gimp", etc. NaV II seems to have all the makings of one and all the flavor of MP and SP combined. Yes, Gandalf, I agree. NaV seems to have it all.

But many MP games now make use of mods and/or a modified .map (which is really what makes a scenario a "scenario", the image file is just a graphic). So they can't all be scenarios.

Wasn't really advertising it here (it is posted and advertised in the MP forum) although if it does qualify as a scenario it probably would not have been improper to have done so. Just had that question and didn't want to break any rules using the scenario thread tag in the MP forum where the game is posted.

NaV II does seem to be both an MP game and a "scenario", but might be best as Gandalf says to tag it as MP at least before the game ends otherwise I'd need to post the .map file after the game is over so others could use it. Thanks for your help dudes.