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[13lackGu4rd]

now that Helheim is dead and Arco+TNN don't have any independent provinces(their remaining forts are being sieged) it seems that we're moving onto a 4 player war, and from 4 shall leave 1 victorious.

I don't even remember what you guys told me about previous pacts you had or didn't have with the previous owner of Sauromatia, so to make things easier I'm canceling all diplomatic relations I may or may not had with any of you. I assume the most common would be NAP-3 so consider this the first turn of warning, whoever I may be NAPed with... just don't want to tie my(and well, all of our) hands now that we're down to 4 players...

[Mardagg]

gg Hoplo and sorry for the domkill.

@ Sauromatia

Ok,we take notice of you canceling our NAP3.
We are Turn 66...on Turn 69 the first battles between our nations might occur.

[13lackGu4rd]

Originally Posted by Mardagg

gg Hoplo and sorry for the domkill.

@ Sauromatia

Ok,we take notice of you canceling our NAP3.
We are Turn 66...on Turn 69 the first battles between our nations might occur.

oh, good to know that we had a NAP... after all those Ghost Riders, Black Deaths and all those other things you threw at me I was wondering why you didn't actually make an offensive move besides hiding behind cowardly "anonymous" spells...

[Mardagg]

1. i am getting blasted by several anonymus spells per turn myself.

2. since i cant prove who it is ,i prefer to stay calm with any accusations here.

3. i advise you to do the same.

4. Agartha did say already 3 times in this thread that it had NAP3 with you and will continue to honor the treaty.Your memory must not be the best.
We did not violate the treaty at any time in the game.

See you on the battlefield.

[13lackGu4rd]

Originally Posted by Mardagg

1. i am getting blasted by several anonymus spells per turn myself.

2. since i cant prove who it is ,i prefer to stay calm with any accusations here.

in your case I'd have to agree. being the top dog naturally makes you enemies...

3. i advise you to do the same.

unfortunately I know for a *fact* that it's you. obviously I can't actually *prove* it because you use anonymous spells, but there are other ways of *knowing*...

4. Agartha did say already 3 times in this thread that it had NAP3 with you and will continue to honor the treaty.Your memory must not be the best.
We did not violate the treaty at any time in the game.

See you on the battlefield.

well, this thread was pretty dead until not so long ago, so I could have just forgotten about it. as for "honoring the treaty" I guess that depends on what the definition of a NAP is, which seems to be a very hot topic these days... this thread: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=45171 is an example, but there are also local arguments about NAPs in specific games... seems like many people consider harmful spells as breaking a NAP, and it seems like a no brainer that Ghost Riders, Black Deaths, etc are in fact harmful... however I won't hold it against you in this game, and as I said, I canceled all NAPs in order to prevent this very thing we're discussing now... this doesn't mean I'll attack you as soon as it ends, or anybody else for that matter, it just means that whenever I do decide to attack someone it won't be breaking any NAPs...

[Mardagg]

Originally Posted by 13lackGu4rd

unfortunately I know for a *fact* that it's you. obviously I can't actually *prove* it because you use anonymous spells, but there are other ways of *knowing*...

Since we all field Tartarians it seems pretty obvious that all remaining Nations,as well as Hellheim, are/have been able to cast those spells you mentioned.
I highly doubt that you can be sure enough to *know*.

well, this thread was pretty dead until not so long ago, so I could have just forgotten about it. as for "honoring the treaty" I guess that depends on what the definition of a NAP is, which seems to be a very hot topic these days... this thread: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=45171 is an example, but there are also local arguments about NAPs in specific games... seems like many people consider harmful spells as breaking a NAP, and it seems like a no brainer that Ghost Riders, Black Deaths, etc are in fact harmful... however I won't hold it against you in this game, and as I said, I canceled all NAPs in order to prevent this very thing we're discussing now... this doesn't mean I'll attack you as soon as it ends, or anybody else for that matter, it just means that whenever I do decide to attack someone it won't be breaking any NAPs...

yeah,no problem about the memory.
This thread wasnt too active in the past,thats right.

Concerning NAP`s,this is much more complicated.
There are games with binding diplomacy,as a house rule, in these games it sure is debatable on what spells are actually breaking the treaty.But even there,generally someone actually has to admit it before actions can be taken imo,unless there really is some way of 99% knowing it,like air spells being used heavily with only 1 Nation that got access to it.

Anyways,lets move on.
Agartha thinks as well,that a cancelation of a NAP is not the same as a declaration of war.
We will see what the future will bring

[LDiCesare]

I don't remember if I had a NAP with Agartha either. If I had, it is cancelled. T'ien Ch'i strongly suspects Agartha to have sent its magic assassin minions against our lands, and we won't let this be.