Stealth Astral and reverse-communion

[Finalgenesis]

Just a quick Q, does stealth astral intercept mind hunts if it was in enemy provinces? eg. enemy mind hunts an enemy province which just so happen to have a star child or two on it, will you counter attack and fumble their minds?

For reverse communion, I understand that if you go the matrix route you can bring certain master's item effect to all the slaves (Crystal shield) as it is "cast" at the very start of battle when you are already in communion. My question is, are summon items such as wraith crown, bottle of water, bag wind ...etc also coded as "cast" (summon water ele, undead horder spells ...etc)? Can you bring in a 4 master +12 slaves all matrixed up, with each master wearing a bottle of water and thus having every slave spawn 4x water elemental?

[Festin]

Just a quick Q, does stealth astral intercept mind hunts if it was in enemy provinces? eg. enemy mind hunts an enemy province which just so happen to have a star child or two on it, will you counter attack and fumble their minds?

Yes. A common tactic is to use hiding Spectres with Astral pick to protect your raiders from mind hunts.

[13lackGu4rd]

Originally Posted by Finalgenesis

For reverse communion, I understand that if you go the matrix route you can bring certain master's item effect to all the slaves (Crystal shield) as it is "cast" at the very start of battle when you are already in communion. My question is, are summon items such as wraith crown, bottle of water, bag wind ...etc also coded as "cast" (summon water ele, undead horder spells ...etc)? Can you bring in a 4 master +12 slaves all matrixed up, with each master wearing a bottle of water and thus having every slave spawn 4x water elemental?

no, only self buffs also effect the slaves. Undead Horde, Summon Water(or any other) Elemental, etc are not self buffs but normal battle spells thus are only issued once, so you can put them on the slaves too, not just masters, if you have enough items that is.

[Finalgenesis]

ah okay thanks, so its possible to rent out mind hunt protection through stealth astrals, probably won't have the need to but good to know!

[LoloMo]

That's a twist that I've never heard used though. May have to check first if any nation's stealth astral can protect the exposed nation's commanders.

[Fantomen]

Originally Posted by Finalgenesis

ah okay thanks, so its possible to rent out mind hunt protection through stealth astrals, probably won't have the need to but good to know!

it should work. Could be something to remember for team games.

[thejeff]

I don't think I've actually tested it, but it should work. Mind Hunt will target stealthy commanders in other people's territory. I've lost plenty of scouts when my neighbors were being mindhunted. If the hiding commanders can be targeted, it only makes sense that astral ones could block.

Easy enough to test in a debug game if you want to be sure.

[Kadelake]

Great idea, Finalgenesis. I might hire some star child bodyguards in our upcoming game

[Finalgenesis]

I'll keep that in mind as an option

I'm eager to see what starting location I'll get, would I get boxed in by Oceania and Shinuyama? Will my shore line make up of my least favorite opponents like Ashod or C'tis?

Looking forward to it! Hope I don't get cream in the first few years lol.

[chrispedersen]

1. I've used stealthy astral many times in team games. My team never gets mind hunted, I assume its successful.

2. Contrary to popular opinion, the masters items (copper plate, etc) do NOT propagate to communion slaves.