Various questions

[Finalgenesis]

That's some great info many thanks! I was pulling my hair out when my stealth unit refuse to join the main army attack and got the whole unit killed >.< I guess there's no way to control whether a stealth unit bands with the main attack or attack solo.

[Finalgenesis]

Seems I have nothing but questions... Here's another.

If I intend to stick 2 stone bird (okay maybe not so economical...), is there a way to control what weapon a thug use first? e.g. I want the 8x attack to hit the enemy before I use the main, -16 defense should open any thug/sc up...

Also when using dual stone bird, do I get 2x 6-range repel defense? Be nice if it the thug is also a little bit raid-able.

Also I read somewhere that D9 bless gives an 100% auto disease effect. Does using Shroud saint mage dropping ritual spells (fires afar, murder winter, flames from sky ...etc) and battlefield spell confer 100% disease? I already know it should drop tons of affliction This seemed crazy to me at first until I realized there's a little spell called leprosy...

Finally, do +penetrate item confer the bonus to base attacks / seductions ...etc? Say mind blast, mind control (aboleth hero), life drain, Petrification, vengeance, fear, awe ...etc.

[RadicalTurnip]

Originally Posted by Finalgenesis

Also I read somewhere that D9 bless gives an 100% auto disease effect. Does using Shroud saint mage dropping ritual spells (fires afar, murder winter, flames from sky ...etc) and battlefield spell confer 100% disease? I already know it should drop tons of affliction This seemed crazy to me at first until I realized there's a little spell called leprosy...

A Death 9 bless doesn't give a disease effect, it gives a resistable 2 Armor Negating Damage on top of any other damage. I'm uncertain whether it's conferable like the primary (not the 2 AN damage) Death bless is. I doubt it.

Originally Posted by Finalgenesis

Finally, do +penetrate item confer the bonus to base attacks / seductions ...etc? Say mind blast, mind control (aboleth hero), life drain, Petrification, vengeance, fear, awe ...etc.

They don't confer to attacks. I think they *may* to seduction, but I'm not certain. I always wanted +pen to do stuff too, like help with dispelling globals and stuff, but it doesn't quite work that way, apparently.

[Dimaz]

1) No way to change attack sequence, however if you put boots of quickness/jade armor you'll be able to strike with 2nd attack sequence *after* def had been reduced. Also I don't know if 2 birds combine, usually there is better use for 2nd misc (luck/ama). Don't know about repel.
2) Never heard about 100% desease, probably there is some mistake here.
3) Penetration only helps with spells cast directly by the mage, not by weapons. So for example you cannot increase penetration for charm crown or ethereal crossbow. I think the same goes for built-in weapons you mentioned.

[thejeff]

The Death 9 bless effect (2AN damage) only affects melee weapons. Just like the F9 effect.

[Finalgenesis]

I got the disease tip from :

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...=38392&page=20

Love this forum, thanks for all the answers

[RadicalTurnip]

Originally Posted by Finalgenesis

I got the disease tip from :

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...=38392&page=20

Love this forum, thanks for all the answers

It's a common misconception.

[Kadelake]

Originally Posted by Finalgenesis

Also I read somewhere that D9 bless gives an 100% auto disease effect. Does using Shroud saint mage dropping ritual spells (fires afar, murder winter, flames from sky ...etc) and battlefield spell confer 100% disease?

Maybe you're thinking about the bonus to affliction rate? A unit with a death bless will have a bonus (+100% at D4, +350% at D9) to the chance of causing afflictions. So if you have a high death bless it's a really good idea to use the shroud when casting overland damage spells

[thejeff]

Yes, I'd forgotten about that. It would only be with the melee weapon D9 effect. I suspect it also only happens if the 2AN damage gets by the mr check, which means it's least effective on those you'd most like to disease.

[Kadelake]

Originally Posted by Finalgenesis

I got the disease tip from :

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...=38392&page=20

Love this forum, thanks for all the answers

Hmm, Endoperez says that it's a secondary effect of the death weapons you receive at D9. Which would mean that it only works for physical attacks, not spells.