newbie question: trample ability

[Kref]

Trample (in case if trampler is larger then 3) may be well countered by a size 1 smaller unit with some hitpoints ang good weapon. Troglodites are killed easily by minotuaurs, because two handed axe + minotaurs strength makes much more damage then trampling with size 4 against size 3.

[Soyweiser]

Originally Posted by Kref

Trample (in case if trampler is larger then 3) may be well countered by a size 1 smaller unit with some hitpoints ang good weapon. Troglodites are killed easily by minotuaurs, because two handed axe + minotaurs strength makes much more damage then trampling with size 4 against size 3.

According to the manual, trample damage doesn't change if the being trampled is larger. Size 4 does 16 AP damage against any unit trampled. (apart from that, yeah your tactic would probably work, but I would still be careful with it. Don't go countering mammoths with Jotun woodsmen).

Edit: looking into it, I think using mino vs troglo isn't that smart. The mino has 25 hp, and prot 4. So 2 trample attacks kill them (does around 30 damage). Sure 2 minos hitting back will hit for around 2x 16+ battle axe damage (don't know that think something like 7). Which isn't always enough to kill the troglodyte with 37 hp prot 9. And this depends on hitting first. A mino costs 40, a trog 50. In a straight up fight, I think a equal cost amount of trogs would win.

Also, a mino has attack 8, and a trog def 9. So that gives around 50% chance of hitting. All in all, not that good odds.

(all information based on the wiki).

[Jarkko]

Originally Posted by Soyweiser

Edit: looking into it, I think using mino vs troglo isn't that smart. The mino has 25 hp, and prot 4. So 2 trample attacks kill them (does around 30 damage). Sure 2 minos hitting back will hit for around 2x 16+ battle axe damage (don't know that think something like 7). Which isn't always enough to kill the troglodyte with 37 hp prot 9. And this depends on hitting first. A mino costs 40, a trog 50. In a straight up fight, I think a equal cost amount of trogs would win.

Also, a mino has attack 8, and a trog def 9. So that gives around 50% chance of hitting. All in all, not that good odds.

Minotaurs are berserkers, troglodytes not. So if the troglodyte tramples the minotaur once, the minotaur gets very very angry (gaining amongst other things +4 to attack and strength, so they will hit the troglodytes easily *and* deal some serious pain). In an equally-valuable-regiments -situation the troglodytes will most likely (despite their high morale) take enough damage to break before all minotaurs are dead (in fact I believe a minotaur regiment should be able to whack even a somewhat larger trogldoyte regiment usually), and at the end of the day it is those who stay on the field who win the battle.