Best 4 X Game To Date

Fyron · #1 July 11th, 2002, 10:27 PM

Barnacle Bill, play on PBW. Human diplomacy is much more fun than AI diplomacy.

The Beastmaster · #2 July 11th, 2002, 11:49 PM

You've got to be kidding?!?

I've sat on the fence for about a year and finally ordered this game early this morning, and now I find out that the diplomacy options in the AI (such as not respecting boarders via colonization of your own planets) don't work??

Cripse, there was a similar problem with Civilization 2 in which allies still woulnd't pull settlers out of your territories after telling the ally (via diplomacy) to get out/off that I recall never being fixed... this was a frustratingly near game killing bug, one that I thought would have been fixed by now with so many patches to this game.

I came here to ask on the board which Version of SE 4 Gold came with the game, but man, this is a bummer to read.

Baron Munchausen · #3 July 11th, 2002, 11:58 PM

You haven't been reading very long if you didn't realize that the AI was lame. It's the #1 complaint and the #1 topic of discussion among modders.

The Beastmaster · #4 July 12th, 2002, 01:07 AM

You are right, I have not spent much time reading on this board... I have visted it from time to time, but never looked too closely at it. My mistake obviously. I still have hopes that it is a good game, but I really thought the A.I. would have surpassed that of Deadlock 2. From what I'm reading now, it appears that the A.I. may be able to put up a better fight, but man, why not just remove the non-functioning diplomacy options from vs. AI games? Or is that not possible?

Atrocities · #5 July 12th, 2002, 01:11 AM

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I've sat on the fence for about a year and finally ordered this game early this morning, and now I find out that the diplomacy options in the AI (such as not respecting boarders via colonization of your own planets) don't work??

It called AI Diarria. Look at it this way, you can use their colonies as target practice.

Suicide Junkie · #6 July 12th, 2002, 01:23 AM

"why not just remove the non-functioning diplomacy options from vs. AI games?"

What about multiple humans vs AIs?
What if a human sets their empire to full AI control for a while?

What if it really was a human player reading your Messages, and ignoring you in the same way?

Baron Munchausen · #7 July 12th, 2002, 03:29 AM

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Originally posted by The Beastmaster:
You are right, I have not spent much time reading on this board... I have visted it from time to time, but never looked too closely at it. My mistake obviously. I still have hopes that it is a good game, but I really thought the A.I. would have surpassed that of Deadlock 2. From what I'm reading now, it appears that the A.I. may be able to put up a better fight, but man, why not just remove the non-functioning diplomacy options from vs. AI games? Or is that not possible?

The AI is not good at diplomacy, but if you play in a medium or small map with lots of enemies you'll get into conflict quickly and get a hell of a fight. In large-scale games the AI seems to get confused and becomes really lame. Ah, well. There's always PBW...