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Old December 22nd, 2010, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PriestyMan View Post
I'm actually kind of offended that you altered our page so radically. i'll probably be asking maer to help me edit it back to where it was in some cases. its our work. It was clearly stated that we wrote it with CBM 1.71 in mind. if you want to make your own page for vanilla thats cool. I appriciate the descriptions, but your tone in the article is pretty grating.
You are offended? You think I spent 8 or more hours of my evening to offend you? If I wanted to do that, I would have just insulted you here, which I never did. Instead, my work gets dismissed by you as "drivel," which is offensive. My writing style is my writing style, if you find it grating, sorry. Others find it hilarious.

I did my changes with one purpose in mind, to create a more informative list for the Dominions community, because I enjoy Dominions, enjoy Dominions strategy, and want others to have an easier time to come to that enjoyment. My improvements had numerous clear advantages, the descriptions being paramount, and the rearrangement into purpose categories. The problem was never that your list was "wrong," but it gave readers no information on how to properly use the Artifacts. The Chalice without a Tatarian summoner looses a lot of its utility, for example.

Though, really, we appear to have a fundamentally different conception of what a wiki is. I learned from wikipedia that they are COMMUNITY collaborations to create informative content. The fact anybody can edit any page is not just so somebody can catch a contributor's grammar mistakes. It is there so others can make improvements, sometimes deleting and re-arranging content whole scale until consensus is achieved. For example, back when Troika's Bloodlines was released, I probably wrote half of the early content. Today, my words probably count for less than 10% of that Wikipedia article. I certainly never received any personal credit for that work.

Admittedly, there is a place for posting individuals work and not having it be rewritten in typical wiki style, but the fact your list got a front page link (which is how I came upon it) and has very little original input (other than the ordering and the description of the Tiers), it never occurred to me your list was such a work. Sorry, it just didn't. I saw your list on the wiki as nice start but with room for improvements, which I invested my time to do. I was kind of hoping you guys would be impressed with the direction I took it. I stand sorely disappointed.

I had sent Lch a PM explaining my thoughts and suggesting a compromise position which would serve the community best and let you two keep your list intact, but then noticed he has not been here since September and I have no idea if he is still the lead behind the wiki. I'll post my suggestion in the discussion section later, probably tomorrow as it is now late.
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