Jets & Planes but no UAV's here. - Page 6

Marcello · #1 December 25th, 2011, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DRG

On the contrary..... the base code for this was SP2 which was the "modern" game............ that is, unless you only count "modern" as being after 1996.

Don

To be fair by 1996 the impact and ubiquitousness of JDAMs was yet to be appreciated. PGMs have gone from being a specialized weapon to be the standard attack munition.

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #2 January 7th, 2012, 03:09 AM

The UK is concerned about the future of the F-35. Originally plans were for the UK to purchase the F-35B, however, with the longer delays in that part of the program to include a 2yr probation on the project imposed by the Pentagon last summer, the UK has now opted for the F-35C version for the new Queen Elisabeth Class carriers now under construction. And to an earlier question asked the current per unit cost stands at ~113 million dollars. Article is taken from the "DID" site.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...c7a078863d.4f1

I don't think it unreasonable for background to post this companion article on the carriers.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...updated-01630/

A change of pace or distraction seems to be in order about now!?!

Regards,
Pat

Suhiir · #3 January 14th, 2012, 11:28 PM

Jan 11, 2012
First production F-35B's delivered to USMC.
Marine Corps student pilots will probably start flying the Lightning II around August 2012.

News Article

DRG · #4 January 15th, 2012, 03:17 PM

What the average time from training on a new aircraft to deployment ?

Don

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #5 January 15th, 2012, 03:57 PM

Saw your post as I was ready to post on something different that surprised me which will follow...based on the info I provided concerning the Thai acquisition of the GRIPEN, about one year. See Page #3 Post #21 Item A3. this thread from last years Patch Post input.
Now for the surprise...we'll need to extend the service life of the German F-4 by 13 years as it stands right now. Current end game time is 2000. Before my time, here's a couple of refs. We cannot just increase end time unless it's done as a stop gap. The F-4 in Germany has undergone several upgrades since that need proper evaluation that the Patch Post provides or someone else's version thereof. Right now I have already plenty to support Dec. 2013 or 2014 as the best end date. Here's what got the ball rolling on this, because I thought they went away myself a handful of years ago from the LUFTWAFFE. The last ref is one of the most famous units in the LUFTWAFFE and the CO said for this article 2014, they are the last SDQ. to have and are a little plane heavy. As a side note 20 F-4 have been offered to CROTIA for free to replace their older MiG-21 fighters.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/31107/
http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123009465
http://www.touchdown-aviation.com/re...richthofen.php
http://www.touchdown-aviation.com/re...richthofen.php
The pictures are great and I like the idea if possible to at least offer country prototypical photos of equipment where practical and without causing undue stress.

Have to get dinner going, I'm just a multi talented guy and CINCLANTHOME can use the break.

Regards,
Pat

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #6 January 15th, 2012, 05:42 PM

Sorry forgot to post the German F-4 UNITS are #293 & #294 for possible immediate or other life extension, sorry for the oversight.

Regards,
Pat

DRG · #7 January 16th, 2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

...........The pictures are great and I like the idea if possible to at least offer country prototypical photos of equipment where practical and without causing undue stress.

Regards,
Pat

It just happens that the photo used for those German F-4 units are.........

A/ A German F-4's

and

B/ only used by the German OOB

Don

Warwick · #8 January 19th, 2012, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DRG

What the average time from training on a new aircraft to deployment ?

Don

In the case of the F-35 pick a random number and multiply by ten:- The following extracts are from Air International Feb issue.
"In far bigger trouble is the F-35A or JSF. It was once scheduled to begin training pilots and maintainers at the 33rd Fighter Wing the 'Nomads' at Elgin AFB, Florida in November 2009 but is still not doing so."

"The F-35As belatedly started to arrive at Elgin last July, beginning with aircraft 08-0747. The base had half a dozen F-35As by mid-October, the sixth being aircraft 08-0751. But Michael Gilmore the Pentagon's test and evaluation boss, decreed that no one but a qualified test pilot could safely operate the fighters. Not a single F-35A sortie has been flown at Elgin."

"The Marine Corps F-35B is in greater jeopardy than the Air Force F-35A. General Norton Schwartz USAF chief of staff has hinted strongly that the latter is a proven commodity- despite the paralysis at Elgin - and that he would gladly save the the F-35A, even if the F-35B is offered up on the altar of defence cuts."

Regards, Warwick

Suhiir · #9 January 19th, 2012, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Warwick

"The Marine Corps F-35B is in greater jeopardy than the Air Force F-35A. General Norton Schwartz USAF chief of staff has hinted strongly that the latter is a proven commodity- despite the paralysis at Elgin - and that he would gladly save the the F-35A, even if the F-35B is offered up on the altar of defence cuts."

Regards, Warwick

What else is new?
Everyone "knows" the USAF "should" have total control over all aircraft assets in the USA.
Heck, the US Navy may even like the new 5x larger aircraft carriers "essential" for air operations since there is no way USAF pilots could "safely" land on the current ones.

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #10 January 19th, 2012, 04:13 AM

In my further efforts to provide timely information you'll be glad to know in regards to the F-35 the NAVY is leading the way-no surprise, did we not give you "An Officer and a Gentleman", "Top Gun", "TORA TORA" or "The Bridges at Toko-Rei(?)" anyway the program had a decent year in testing however many major issues were identified as well such as airframe cracks at 2000 hrs. vs. design at 8000 hrs. This document talks of delays from 2-15 yrs. for the programs covered. So I offer some med. to heavy reading. I recommend the Directors Intro, DOD programs for F-35 and others, USAF Programs you might find the
F-22 section most interesting, on the surface of it they seem "to be all in" on the F-22 and other U.S. programs of interest to you under the service headings. I think under the USA section was some mention of the successful TRUCK programs some might find interesting.

. And this is as official as it gets...
http://www.dote.osd.mil/pub/reports/FY2011/

And these next few provide some interesting analysis, of course, if you have been paying attention you'll already realize what the outcome was of the first issue brought up here...
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...-Taiwan-07106/
If not...
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/31242/
Next...
http://defense-update.com/20111213_d...r_defense.html
Bombs Away!...
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...II-Bombs-07017/
Ahhh the Maple Leaf...
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...n-fighter-jets

Well that should keep you busy for awhile it did me anyway and CINCLANTHOME says I have a "Big Storage Unit" on my shoulders though that could be interpreted many ways and all so true!?!

Regards,
Pat

Don,
A bonus for you and the rest of you designers this program is moving forward...
http://defense-update.com/20111216_a...beersheba.html