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October 9th, 2011, 03:16 AM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
I'll be on hiatus for a while, as I have 25 excellent reasons why I have to go, however they'd be too long to list them here. Suffice to say a couple of people know why due to the state of my current project. But I wish to leave for you all that are interested in such things the following site info and the opportunity to view the main site for it's reference purposes as well. The link below will list every countries Air Force/Naval current and ordered status of fighters, transports and helos through the end of 2010. The file is in PDF format. You WILL need to fill out the basic request form first. For those like myself that had to sign "documents" for employment purposes, under the company name info I simply put USN Ret. and this was accepted so feel free to use what you want there. This would be an excellent tool for verifying current OOB status etc. and just great general info. Sorry simple "cut and paste" didn't work and I don't want to just post the PDF without knowing for sure if I'd violate any copyright issues at this time. So I hope you'll find this helpful.
http://www.flightglobal.com/page/wor...s-report-2010/
Enjoy!
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Pat

ALWAYS ON WATCH AND LOOKOUT! Well sometimes anyway!?! Good Night!
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November 16th, 2011, 02:32 PM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
For those who doubt decent analysis, I'll start with see
Post #44 above, and ask Don not to dispose of the GR.7 & 9 data as it'll be needed for the CORPS. The U.S. DOD is about to purchase UK's GR.7 & 9 HARRIERS for the USMC. This will keep the HARRIER flying through the mid 2020's as the HORNET D Series gets phased out and the USMC experiences further delays with the F-35B.
See defenceindustrydaily.com RAPID FIRE 11/14/2011 section. This links to a defencenews.com article that as reported already will not link to archival articles for some reason.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rica&Itemid=59
gotta get ready for work!!
Regards,
Pat
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November 17th, 2011, 10:21 AM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
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I'll be on hiatus for a while, as I have 25 excellent reasons why I have to go, ...ALWAYS ON WATCH AND LOOKOUT! Well sometimes anyway!?! Good Night!
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Hope its not too long of a hiatus, Pat.
Always enjoy your interesting and well researched posts.
Godspeed, and best of luck with your project.
-G
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November 18th, 2011, 05:00 AM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
Well let me start by saying I just lost over an hours worth of work in trying to answer you guys when the screen "fluttered" and my reply was gone and I was returned to the "last page" was I in a maintenance period or something?
Anyway-
Don
Yes, to clarify AV-8B carries the GAU-12 25mm "EQUALIZER" as used on SPECTRE, SPOOKEY and LAV-AD. All use(d) DU rounds for all platforms just named. And does this make them AP rounds since they're from DU origin? Anyway AV-8B uses the same pods that used to carry the twin ADEN 30mm cannons on early UK HARRIERS (GR.3 I believe was last to have them.), AV-8B uses the Port side pod the carry the GAU-12, Starboard pod carries 300 rounds. USMC uses the 30mm on their MC-130 "Light" gunships, same ones the USAF discarded on the SPOOKEY+4 planes we fixed in last years Patch Post/Release. UK would drop ADEN for short ranged AAM. Real issue will UK keep SNIPER (1) Pods and USMC back fit to LITENING (2) II Pods as now carried? We use both (1) A-10, B1B etc. and (2) AV-8B, B-52 etc. I say LITENING for the sake of conformity and all that implies. The worst thing is for us a great deal for the UK not so after spending almost 2 Billion Pounds to improve the GR.9 and bring the remaining GR.7 to the GR.9 standard. Also see Posts #12-#16.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ems/gau-12.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...an-alq-164.htm
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircr...aircraft_id=47
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/harriergr9/
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/harrier/
Pics:
GR.9 note in first the SNIPER Pod on Port side. Next BRIMSONE that performed so well in Libya and has caused great interest by both the USAF & USMC.
AV-8B in first note GAU-12 25mm "EQUALIZER" on Port side and Ammo Pod w/300 rounds on Starboard side.
G-
Thank You! All is well 25 reasons was for 25th Wedding Ann. with CINCLANTHOME, Daughters wedding the following week and months of work issues surrounding our new contract, new employer, rehire process etc. and the main project trying to make head way on the 2011/2012 Patch Posts. PP #2 is started FINALLY!! Preview for #2 moving ahead w/OPLOT for Thailand, finally have what I needed to close it out, BPM-97 for Russia new info shows assigned to army now see APC THREAD as this was submitted as a "maybe" 2yrs ago, and a couple of other vehicles. Helos fixes for USMC MV-22 OSPREY, UH-1Y, SAF ROOIVALK, UK PUMA HC1, ADD RUSSIA Mi-35 (Mi-24V) + Verify carry 8P even in gunship config it never lost carry ability, Verify/Add CH-47F to USA, UK, Turkey with CH-47G for USA Spec Op config. If within time limits as agreed btwn Don and myself Add India APACHE 64-D. If I can finish this soon hopefully it's #3 Jets after that think B-1B, B-52, A-10, HARRIER, F-15SE, F/A-18D(?), F/A 18E/F combined with SNIPER and LITENING Pods this will have Vision and FC repercussions for the game as it now has had in the battlefield, have video showing a real world target at 25NM (50,000YDS) on a SNIPER Pod cockpit display looking like the plane is on "top of it". Preview for everyone else update for others.
I even got to use some naval terms , what a GREAT way to end the day!!
Gotta get some sleep later is another day at the "office".
Regards,
Pat

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November 18th, 2011, 09:10 AM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
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........does this make them AP rounds since they're from DU origin?
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Pat, Aircraft "AP" ratings come from the weapon "HE" ratings.
The AP slot .........
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Class 11 air cannon can only use HE ammo as the AP round number is used as the number of cannon, so if they have an armour piercing capability then this is reflected in an HE AP rating, not an AP round rating
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So the 25mm GAU-12 has a penetration rating of 6
Don
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November 18th, 2011, 01:12 PM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
Don and Andy,
Thank You! Good information is never a waste of anyones time.
Regards,
Pat
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November 30th, 2011, 03:26 AM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
Well as reported on the previous page, the UK has sold it's HARRIER fleet the U.S. for the USMC on the 25th.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/30159/
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December 11th, 2011, 01:12 PM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
Just wanted to put this information where it belongs. These videos show why the bomber/fighter bomber issue should see some improvement in the game primarily in the area of vision and to some degree targeting as these systems are tied into the on board weapons systems. I'm not all about air, though I have my favorites such as SPOOKY etc., as much as trying to improve elements of the game as much as my (Others) supporting refs will allow the developers to do so with the game architecture.
The newest version of LITENING is now pretty much on par with SNIPER and you will hear the comparison made in the first video. The key here is the range the video shot from an adjusted 11NM out on what appears to be an air museum as you'll see an SR-1 just above and to the left of the B-52.
1. http://www.lockheedmartin.com/produc...ATPVideo2.html
2. Next is an overview of it's capabilities, platforms to include helos (AH-1Z w/TSS shown.) and targeting video scenes. The portion I described as 25NM is actually 35NM, it's been awhile since I last looked, as indicated in the MBT Post #183 most recently, I've had some of this for awhile now as noted.
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/produc...perVideo1.html
3. The last shows it's air to air capabilities, point being nothing on the ground or water will get away. Also at an extended range.
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/produc...perVideo3.html
This is my direction with the air issue though there are some EW improvements to be made on a handful of units such as the B-52 also.
I acknowledge the MALD-J answer here as well-thank you!
Regards,
Pat
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November 18th, 2011, 11:00 AM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
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Well let me start by saying I just lost over an hours worth of work in trying to answer you guys when the screen "fluttered" and my reply was gone and I was returned to the "last page" was I in a maintenance period or something?
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If you are preparing a long post in order to avoid losing it to internet "flutters", then copy all the text in the edit box (right click and use select all from the pop-up menu) and then save it (paste) to an open copy of your favourite text editor.
To be double sure, save the text editor copy as a disk file like "tmp.txt" (in case of a power outage, say).
Then if it barfs, you can re-reply to the original post, and copy and paste the text into the edit box.
Naturally the time you don't follow this procedure is the time it will go off into the ether ...
Cheers
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