Question time.......

Baron Munchausen · #1 July 14th, 2002, 12:37 AM

Nope, mines are the one unit that cannot give you 'vision' in a system. The reason is obvious. In the default game they are cloaked so that NOTHING can detect them. It would be very unfair to have an undetectable spy unit. You'll have to drop a satellite or fighter in the system to get a full view of what's going on.

Ragnarok · #2 July 14th, 2002, 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Nope, mines are the one unit that cannot give you 'vision' in a system. The reason is obvious. In the default game they are cloaked so that NOTHING can detect them. It would be very unfair to have an undetectable spy unit. You'll have to drop a satellite or fighter in the system to get a full view of what's going on.

Ok thanks, that's what I thought. But I wasn't sure cause they worked as a 'viewer' in my Last game so that threw me off.

capnq · #3 July 14th, 2002, 02:39 AM

Were you in a Partnership in the previous game, with some of your partner's stuff in the mined system? That's the only other thing that would let you see a system; your mines shouldn't have.

Ragnarok · #4 July 14th, 2002, 05:23 AM

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Originally posted by capnq:
Were you in a Partnership in the previous game, with some of your partner's stuff in the mined system? That's the only other thing that would let you see a system; your mines shouldn't have.

No, no partnerships or nothing like that. That's what confused me this time about it all. I was at war with the empire in my Last game. Which makes no sense at all.

Pax · #5 July 14th, 2002, 05:27 AM

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Originally posted by Ragnarok:
No, no partnerships or nothing like that. That's what confused me this time about it all. I was at war with the empire in my Last game. Which makes no sense at all.

Are you sure the prior game was solely a MINEfield, and not a SATTELITE group?

A cloaked, sensor-equipped sattelite in an out-of-the-way corner is a good way to keep track of a star system you're not going to be colonising in anytime soon ...

Or just a cloaked -remote mining- sattelite, in MODs that allow miniaturised components ... 8)

Will · #6 July 14th, 2002, 05:34 AM

It might have been a somewhat-recent change... I know in SEIII, a common tactic was to leave mines in an area of a system that normally wouldn't be traveled in, to spy on any activities going on there. Unrealistic, sure, but it was a nice early-warning system

geoschmo · #7 July 14th, 2002, 05:48 AM

No, it's not a recent change. Mines have given no vision as long as I can remember in SEIV.

Most likely what happened here was something like he was partners with a thrid empire that had a cloaked ship in the system and he thought he was getting a view from his mines, when he actually wasn't. On PBW we have had about 8 to 10 reports of a "bug" in which a player gets a view of a system they should not, and in EVERY case it's turned out to be a cloaked ship belonging to a partner that they were not aweare was in that system.

Geoschmo