Boot Camp - Finished - Soyweiser/Jotunheim wins!

[Valerius]

So, does everyone agree that Jotun has won?

[DragonRider]

I actually kind of take it back. I have at least one thing left I have to try. Something I wrote off as pointless a long time ago but which might actually be workable via methods that I came up with after making that post. It's just really frustrating smashing your face against the brick wall of a hard turtle strategy over and over and making very little progress. Especially when Burden of Time is up after being dispelled once and your youngest national mage of note is age 45 out of 46.

The thing is that I almost never get retaliated against no matter how utterly my attacks fail. Jotunheim's got very little besides vampires in the area (hundreds and hundreds of vampires with over a dozen lords, mind you), which means he's totally unwilling to use them against my dominion. So my loss condition, basically, is to get strung along for eternity with loss after loss until some point in the distant future when Jotunheim's blood economy has carried them so far that they actually have something to invade with (possibly after controlling every part of the world except mine). So if Jotunheim wins it'll certainly have to be through a surrender rather than true conquest, but I don't really know when it's appropriate to give up.

Being left completely alone gives you lots of time to try different stuff, but there has to be a limit to what I can hope to accomplish somewhere. I just don't have the experience to see where I should draw the line.

[Pjoo]

Originally Posted by Valerius

So, does everyone agree that Jotun has won?

I still have a chance, don't I?

Well, anyways, I am having fun time holding on to my 3 castles, 2 of them under siege, spamming arouse hunger on the one without lab, etc. Turns take around 3min each. Don't see myself dying off anytime soon either, my "NAP" with Jotunheim and Shinuyamanese unwillingness to come take more earthquakes in the face seems to have reduced intrest in me. Now if I just can get rid of these temples...

If you get the other three to agree on a winner, I'll agree with that too then. I can't do anything, neither do I have scouts or anything else to figure out how the war is going.

[Groundworm]

I personall have no problem declaring Jotunheim the winner. It's possible that Marignon and I may gave made a dent in his empire, but not much of one. He also grows stronger while Marignon's forces wither and die and I have... vine men.

That being said, if we don't close the game, may I have a 24 hour extension on this turn? Thanks.