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June 10th, 2011, 08:56 AM
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Re: OPERATION EXPORTER - Multiplayer "User vs AI" Campaign
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Originally Posted by gila
One other detail,
Is excessive suppresive fire allowed?
Most cases in pbem hu v hu,there might be restrictions,
The AI does not use it the way a human may, and have a big handicap there.
I don't use z-fire unless been fired on from a suspected location against the AI.
Latley have a rule of never using in pbem.
Otherwise it's alot of waiting time as someone fires every round they have,very boring and gamey imo.
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Good point. I'm thinking about having a rule that z-fire is only allowed against /suspected unseen targets and against vehicles (since AT capability is pretty limited in this time period).
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June 10th, 2011, 10:53 AM
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Re: OPERATION EXPORTER - Multiplayer "User vs AI" Campaign
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Originally Posted by gila
One other detail,
Is excessive suppresive fire allowed?
Most cases in pbem hu v hu,there might be restrictions,
The AI does not use it the way a human may, and have a big handicap there.
I don't use z-fire unless been fired on from a suspected location against the AI.
Latley have a rule of never using in pbem.
Otherwise it's alot of waiting time as someone fires every round they have,very boring and gamey imo.
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Good point. I'm thinking about having a rule that z-fire is only allowed against /suspected unseen targets and against vehicles (since AT capability is pretty limited in this time period).
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I use the "z" when I know the position of the enemy prior to an assault. or to avoid an assault the enemy. Bone is the use of fire suppression.
Could be used to suppress a hypothetical position but reveals our own position.
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June 10th, 2011, 11:03 AM
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Re: OPERATION EXPORTER - Multiplayer "User vs AI" Campaign
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Originally Posted by Roman
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Originally Posted by Double_Deuce
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Originally Posted by gila
One other detail,
Is excessive suppresive fire allowed?
Most cases in pbem hu v hu,there might be restrictions,
The AI does not use it the way a human may, and have a big handicap there.
I don't use z-fire unless been fired on from a suspected location against the AI.
Latley have a rule of never using in pbem.
Otherwise it's alot of waiting time as someone fires every round they have,very boring and gamey imo.
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Good point. I'm thinking about having a rule that z-fire is only allowed against /suspected unseen targets and against vehicles (since AT capability is pretty limited in this time period).
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I use the "z" when I know the position of the enemy prior to an assault. or to avoid an assault the enemy. Bone is the use of fire suppression.
Could be used to suppress a hypothetical position but reveals our own position.
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Ditto... EXTENSIVE use of z-fire is another matter and actually is quite annoying. Also, isn´t the unit who shoots broadside less capable of op-fire the next turn? I´m not sure...
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June 10th, 2011, 07:17 PM
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Re: OPERATION EXPORTER - Multiplayer "User vs AI" Campaign
Think excessive z-fire does affect a units ability to have op fire.
Not good when you are counting on the other platoons for support and one went a bit nuts previously,and can't op fire when needed most 
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June 10th, 2011, 07:22 PM
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Re: OPERATION EXPORTER - Multiplayer "User vs AI" Campaign
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Good point. I'm thinking about having a rule that z-fire is only allowed against /suspected unseen targets and against vehicles (since AT capability is pretty limited in this time period).
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I use the "z" when I know the position of the enemy prior to an assault. or to avoid an assault the enemy. Bone is the use of fire suppression.
Could be used to suppress a hypothetical position but reveals our own position.
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Ditto... EXTENSIVE use of z-fire is another matter and actually is quite annoying. Also, isn´t the unit who shoots broadside less capable of op-fire the next turn? I´m not sure...
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Well, I've no plans to outlaw it but think there should be some restrictions. As for what I am still working on it. Maybe it should just be a self control issue where you use it when you think it should be used, primarily against unknown targets (suspected enemy positions) and prior to assaulting, kinda situations.
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June 10th, 2011, 07:51 PM
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Re: OPERATION EXPORTER - Multiplayer "User vs AI" Campaign
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I use the "z" when I know the position of the enemy prior to an assault. or to avoid an assault the enemy. Bone is the use of fire suppression.
Could be used to suppress a hypothetical position but reveals our own position.
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Ditto... EXTENSIVE use of z-fire is another matter and actually is quite annoying. Also, isn´t the unit who shoots broadside less capable of op-fire the next turn? I´m not sure...
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Well, I've no plans to outlaw it but think there should be some restrictions. As for what I am still working on it. Maybe it should just be a self control issue where you use it when you think it should be used, primarily against unknown targets (suspected enemy positions) and prior to assaulting, kinda situations.
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I'm good with that self control point myself,and that should the basis rule for z-fire in this campaign 
Cuckoo accepted command,
Say one say all?
edit: i see it's decided,now awaiting my orders.
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June 12th, 2011, 03:46 AM
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Re: OPERATION EXPORTER - Multiplayer "User vs AI" Campaign
cuckoo is out of contact for a few days so that will give me time to tidy things up through the weekend. So . . . we should be ready to go early this coming week.
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June 10th, 2011, 07:30 PM
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Re: OPERATION EXPORTER - Multiplayer "User vs AI" Campaign
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I use the "z" when I know the position of the enemy prior to an assault. or to avoid an assault the enemy. Bone is the use of fire suppression.
Could be used to suppress a hypothetical position but reveals our own position.
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Good point!
Thats the mmg's team job to lay down suppresive fire on a point of assault.
However it does give enemy arty something to plot on.
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