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Old June 13th, 2011, 09:48 AM
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Default Re: Newbie questions about SuperCombatants

Thank you.

I saw that index, and I use it.
I found with it the Mictlan guide, wich is great.
Thanks for the formula, I didn't found it.


I was thinking in an Archdevil with two shields and a lot of reinvigoration, to spam Fireball or Fire cloud.

Are Shield of the Accursed and Lucky coin a good option?
And in the miscellaneous slot I would put Ring of regeneration and Amulet of antimagic.

I think casting Fireball the devil would get 10 fatigue with the encumbrance of the shields.
Boots of the messenger are Reinvigoration 4.

And... I don't know how to get a lot of reinvigoration.
What items have a lot of reinvigoration?

Thank you very much.
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Default Re: Newbie questions about SuperCombatants

Fireball would be pretty crappy for a mage SC. A mage SC needs big aoe spells, which pretty much means falling fires and flame eruption for fire spells. But I have used archdevils this way. Reinvigoration items are messenger boots (n1), girdles of might (e1), amulets of resilience (n2), rainbow armor (n1a1), and heart of... life? I don't recall what it's called, but that one is b2 or so. Anyway you need at least enough reinvigoration to be fatigue neutral, and have your devil cast phoenixpyre just in case things go wrong.
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Spellcasting/ranged SC's are not nearly as popular as melee SC's because almost all SC's will be bogged down in melee during a prolonged battle. When a caster is in melee they will only cast melee spells or, more likely, use their basic attacks. If they have no melee attack (when they have 2 shields...) they should automatically cast melee spells, I think.

If you do go for the long-range spellcasting then you probably will want to stick them with some melee units, otherwise they will only get a few spells off before being swarmed and distracted.

If you can get Pheonixpyre, do it. The spell is ridiculously good, the caster will come back with a fiery blast every time they die for the rest of the battle with only one casting.
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If they have no melee attack (when they have 2 shields...) they should automatically cast melee spells, I think.
People who have 2 shields still have a melee attack: the stupendiferous Useless Kick.

But yeah, even spellcasting SCs need some ways to avoid damage, because when they're in melee they can only cast every other turn or so (don't know the hard rules on this, just going by observations). Lucky Coin + Vine Shield is a good combo, or Lucky Coin + Shield of Gleaming Gold if the SC has some innate fear (like the Heliophagi have).
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