Remote miming question.

jimbob · #1 July 22nd, 2002, 07:03 PM

For starters, I think remote miming would be a great addition to the game... consider it an intelligence attack; thousands of elite attack-mimes decend from invisible staircases into the midst of an unsuspecting population, and begin their soundless campaign of 'mind-numbing' against the hapless citizens. Uncertain as to what to make of the chalk-faced denizens of uber-droldom, the population stares in stunned silence as the mimes unexpectedly run into invisible walls, get trapped in invisible shrinking boxes, and rise and fall on invisible escalators (Edit - and in Mexico city, direct traffic). The population, utterly mesmerized by these feats of incredible irrelevance cease to tend to their lives, resulting in production loss, maintenance failures, research blunders and eventually mass die-offs as untended crops are left unharvested (Edit - and car accidents in Mexico city)...
... perhaps Remote Miming should be it's own racial tech tree

Anyway, for remote mining, I personally like to use level two bases (or higher). This is because the satelites do indeed have no maintenance costs, but you can only shoe-horn on a few remote miners/farmers/radioactive thingies per satelite (1 or 2 I can't remember). The level 2 base can fit 13 mimes... er, mines. This gives a very good short term return on investment, but is even better for long term investment - here's why. Every turn the value of the planet or asteroid decreases due to remote mining, but it doesn't matter how many actual mining components are present!. So a single component on a single vessel will degrade the celestial object 1% each turn, as will 13 components on a single vessel. So to get the most from a celestial object - go big! Oh, and the most fun I've had with this to date is in the P&N mod, playing the nomads because they have recycling units that decrease the maintenance on ships/bases even more.

(IMHO only)

geoschmo · #2 July 22nd, 2002, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by jimbob:
This is because the satelites do indeed have no maintenance costs, but you can only shoe-horn on a few remote miners/farmers/radioactive thingies per satelite (1 or 2 I can't remember).

It's one per sector. You can put as many as you want in the sector of course, but you will only get the resources from one of each type.

Baron Munchausen · #3 July 22nd, 2002, 08:07 PM

Nope. You only get the resources from one vehicle, period. No matter what 'type' of extraction each is using. I tried this myself recently. Built a base containing all radioactives extractors, and then built one containing all mineral extractors. When the mineral base went Online the radioactives base stopped producing.

jimbob · #4 July 22nd, 2002, 08:10 PM

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It's one per sector. You can put as many as you want in the sector of course, but you will only get the resources from one of each type.

Right. Only one vessel gets to mine. But you can have multiple components working on that one vessel.
Now I don't know what happens if you put a mining satelite and a mining base in the same sector (over a planet let's say). Do you get resources from the first laid? The one with the best resource gather rate?

What if you put a remote miner over a neighbours planet, do you start to degrade his planet? What if you put a remote miner in the same sector as an allied remote miner, does only one work?

Baron Munchausen · #5 July 22nd, 2002, 08:18 PM

Only UNinhabited planets can be mined. Another reason to get possessive of a system even if you cannot colonize all the planets.

What happens when two different empires have remote miners in the same sector, I don't know.

geoschmo · #6 July 22nd, 2002, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Nope. You only get the resources from one vehicle, period. No matter what 'type' of extraction each is using. I tried this myself recently. Built a base containing all radioactives extractors, and then built one containing all mineral extractors. When the mineral base went Online the radioactives base stopped producing.

Right, but I was refering to sattelites. If you place three sattelites in a sector, one of each kind, you get all three resources. I think becasue the sat group is considered as one vehicle or something. But that would make you think you could put many sats of the same kind. You used to be able to do that, but that was changed.

Geoschmo

mac5732 · #7 July 22nd, 2002, 08:52 PM

Baron, in regards to miners from 2 empires in same sector, I've had games where there was AI miners in a system, I put in 1 or more and mined what they weren't and I still received resources, however, I did not ck the status of the AI miners who were there lst to see if they were still receiving, I will have to ck this out lst chance I get.

just some ideas mac