What am I doing wrong?

krpeters · #1 November 25th, 2011, 11:41 PM

No, I gave it a try. Without the etherealness, a bane lord gets hit too often by a horde of Dai Bakemonos, routs, and dies. With the etherealness he gets chewed up and spat out due to insufficient protection (even with boots of stone) Meanwhile, the ethereal gargoyle or an ethereal ironskinned troll king pound on them relentlessly. Admittedly the extra HP of the gargoyle and the regen of the troll king help a lot.

Like you point out, anything with a magical attack is going to be a problem, but I'm trying to kill chaff mostly.

Knai · #2 November 26th, 2011, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by krpeters

No, I gave it a try. Without the etherealness, a bane lord gets hit too often by a horde of Dai Bakemonos, routs, and dies. With the etherealness he gets chewed up and spat out due to insufficient protection (even with boots of stone) Meanwhile, the ethereal gargoyle or an ethereal ironskinned troll king pound on them relentlessly. Admittedly the extra HP of the gargoyle and the regen of the troll king help a lot.

Take a look at some other defenses. Luck is easily gained, and there are other interesting options. Awe has been discussed, as well as the Vine Shield and its entangling effect. Then there are the really fun options. The Charcoal Shield, for instance, can be surprisingly effective as a form of protection against chaff. Then there is the matter of numbers. One Bane Lord will get cut down, true. What about three, each armed with a frost or fire brand? That will take a lot of chaff, or chaff buffed to the point they no longer deserve the name.

BewareTheBarnacleGoose · #3 November 26th, 2011, 12:25 PM

Triqui is right about the etheralness. If you are kitting thugs right, the normal damage negated by it isnt really what you're worried about. Magic is what is going to take down most thugs, and etheralness doesnt protect against it. Sure, lucky rolls can still kill your thug, but imo the robe isnt worth it- losing the protection and other benefits from the chest slot isnt worth the etheralness.

Think about it this way- etheralness protects against 75% of non-magic hits ( I think), while an amulet of luck protects against 50% of all hits, and lets you have higher protection (by having armor) for the hits that do get through. It's really a better deal.

Doubling or tripling up on thugs is also a good idea. At first it doesnt seem efficient- ideally, two fully kitted thugs could raid two different provinces. But pairing them allows you to get away with less gear on each letting you save on gems (as compared to fully equipping them). And it will increase their odds of survival.