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I have a question about the Murdering Winter.  First, here is the description found on pg. 215 of the manual: 
 
"This is a long-ranged cold attack on an enemy army in a distant province. The strength of the attack is 7 armor-negating points + 2 x the province's cold scale. This spell will never kill more 
than half of an enemy army, as at least half of the army is out of camp at a given time, and this spell attacks the camp." 
 
My question is, is the damage dealt from this attack cold damage or normal?  Should I assume that because the attack is cold that the damage dealt is also cold-based? 
 
I ask because my opponent has several troops with 100% cold resistance.  The description makes me think that the damage is normal though you would think it would be cold-based.   
 
Any help here is appreciated.  Just looking for a confirmation.  Thx. 
 
 
 
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		I think it is cold based. Dunno for sure. But most water spells are cold, and most fire spells are fire. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I'd say it's almost certainly cold based. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		it is. cast it on undead to test it. it will kill none of them. flames from the sky though, murders undead 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Does this sort of spell work on units hiding in castles? 
 
What about if i have a besieging army, can i use it on the castle and my units not be affected? 
 
If i cast wolven winter in the same turn, what order are the spells processed in? 
 
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		You can cast it on castles, it won't affect your sieging troops, and the spell order is random. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				 and the spell order is random. 
			
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 You have an equal chance of Wolven Winter being cast before Murdering Winter or after it.  However, spell casting order most certainly is  not random!    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		It is randomly either in caster ID order or reverse ID order, which is effectively random for most purposes. There are ways to abuse this, of course. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				 There are ways to abuse this, of course. 
			
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 As casting 2 wolven winters and the murdering winter in between. 
btw. do wolven winters stack? Can i change heat 3 to cold 3 by two wolven winters? 
And another question: Is murdering winter affected by season? As being most effective in winter?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				btw. do wolven winters stack? Can i change heat 3 to cold 3 by two wolven winters? 
And another question: Is murdering winter affected by season? As being most effective in winter? 
			
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 - The scales effects of spells stack. 
- Nope, murdering winter is affected by scales, not the time of winter. (iirc). Of course, it is just a little bit more effective if old units get diseases/never healing wounds, on the same turn as you cast murdering winter. But that is only marginal, and not something you should ever try to use.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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