Mine balance suggestion

Lord_Shleepy · #1 August 5th, 2002, 08:05 PM

*snores...grumbles...and lurches to his feet

My good people! We must not let our efforts be hampered by mere minefields! It is our prerogative to expand without bound throughout the known universe...not cower and whimper in fear of a few drifting explosives! We shall endeavour to overcome these obstacles... regardless of the loss of life and prove to our enemies that...that...

*thrusts his index finger dramatically into the air and collapses into a pile of feather pillows

dreamplace · #2 August 6th, 2002, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gozra:
The glitch that lets put more than 100 mines in space is good. It keeps you guessing. so the patch to elimanate that glitch is a disappointment to me.

In the PBW game "Colorado Gold Rush 1"
I've encountered a minefield with 190 mines in one sector, this was totally cheating! But no one seem to care about that.

DavidG · #3 August 7th, 2002, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dreamplace:
[QBI've encountered a minefield with 190 mines in one sector, this was totally cheating! But no one seem to care about that.[/QB]

I disagree with calling that cheating. I consider it a rule. The current rule is that if you have less than 100 mines you can initiate a launch.

dumbluck · #4 August 7th, 2002, 11:08 AM

Since it's fixed in the next patch, MM must consider it a bug. That's good enough for me...

tesco samoa · #5 August 7th, 2002, 05:48 PM

I think the 100 limit is not very realistic... 20000 units max... If I want them in one spot and all mines... that is my empires wishes... My empire spend all those resources doing that... so it is ok...

Just plain silly...limiting the mines to 100...

To BC's with mine sweepers cleans that up... Not very realistic... so mines become useless in a game.... which is just silly....

Yea I am tired today... Paged Last night ... so not much sleep

Wardad · #6 August 7th, 2002, 08:01 PM

Actually, two allies can each put up 100 mines.
If I was told correctly the invader would need to sweep 200. So you could still face more than 100 mines without cheating.

jimbob · #7 August 7th, 2002, 08:10 PM

Mine fields should have an upper limit to how many mines can be in them... if you wallpaper space with mines then they'll be detected by incoming ships, and so won't really be a mine field in the common sense of the term (undetected, a surprise, etc)

That said, each sector is a pretty big chunk of realestate and so I think the max # of mines/sector could realistically reach 1,000 or even 10,000. I think MM was more concerned about people barricading themselves in during the early game, and so the later game (with huge minesweepers) suffered.

My solution would be to increase the (modable) limit to 1000 per sector, but then make the mines far more expensive to build to reduce the number manufactured in the early game. Or reduce the number launched per turn (per kT of launcher space) to make it harder to put many hundreds into space in a short period of time.

just my .02$

[ August 07, 2002, 19:14: Message edited by: jimbob ]