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Old February 19th, 2012, 09:08 PM

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Default Re: French OOB

I'm sorry for the late reply, but university kept me busy.

I tried to look for solid information in english but I didn't manage to find much except for this OOB from 2003. France however had a military reform in 2008 so the OOB may not be fully up to date.

The 120mm mortars were and in some case still are handled by battalion level recon and support companies. These are already represented in the game by the CEA RI and CEA companies which have the mortars. French army website says that 120mm mortars are currently used by artillery regiments and marine (RIMA) forces. They might have been once upon a time have been used by Legionaries as company support weapons but nothing I managed to find implies they still are. The french army's website says that contemporary Legion support platoons have 81mm mortars and Milan ATGMs.

I haven't found anything that would imply that contemporary Legion companies would have radicaly different organization or armament compared to regular French infantry units. Their battalion/regiment level organization is peculiar but the bulk of legion infantry forces (2nd regiment, 5 infantry companies) is basicaly light mechanized infantry with VABs or VBCIs.

Outside of the 2nd regiment the FFL has the 3rd regiment with 2 companies. It's garrisoned in the French Guyana. The french army website isn't very wordy on their exact armament, except that their support units also have the 81mm mortars. There's also a small detachment in Mayotte, near the Comoroos. For WINSPMBT these two formations are military curiosities, unless someone fancies modeling a France vs Brazil war or anti-poaching actions the 3rd regiment has been involved in.

and yes, the french brigade/regiment level organization is a horrible headache.

To put it shortly, the majority of Legion infantry units follows the organization of other light mech units with VABs or VBCIs, which is in turn constrained by the carry capacity of these vechiles. For VAB it's 10, for VBCI it's 9. This in turn follows nicely the purported standard squad organization of the French army 8 men, split into two fireteams. Another one revolves around the ABL AT4's, another one has the Minimi and LGI. (Former?) forum user Urban has detailed the organization in fine detail.

And about the support platoon Milans, once again this info is based on what it says on the official french army website.

According to the 2003 OOB the 12.7 HMGs are near ubiquitous and the 7.62 MGs much rarer.

Apilas was only as being used by marine units by the french army site. The current OOB has some heavy infantry units with Apilas instead of ABL AT4 mixed in infantry and mech infantry formations. I think this is a fine solution, especially if you could add a heavy infantry/mech infantry unit which has the ABL AT4 instead of Apilas.

At least the Mech Legion units should follow a similar line IMO, and the foot/truck legionaires should at least have an option to pick weapons in line with the current French organization. This is so that just in case that the French actually use Apilas more than they say and that if the smaller Legion units use different weapons than usual they can still be represented while offering the option to pick the (IMO) more likely choice.

Still no idea on the flamethrowers.
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