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Old March 24th, 2012, 11:37 PM

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Yes, the quadrupal buffed, recruit anywhere wardens make man _easily_ the best bless nation in CBM MA now, far superior to the actual bless nations...
Wait, the nation with access to only 4 paths, and needs a pretender to forge boosters for all of those, no way even to get holy 2, much less 3 besides the prophet, and also can't take dump scales thanks to old mages plus resource intensive regulars and sacreds...is the best bless nation in MA?
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Old March 24th, 2012, 11:58 PM

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Yes, the quadrupal buffed, recruit anywhere wardens make man _easily_ the best bless nation in CBM MA now, far superior to the actual bless nations...
Wait, the nation with access to only 4 paths, and needs a pretender to forge boosters for all of those, no way even to get holy 2, much less 3 besides the prophet, and also can't take dump scales thanks to old mages plus resource intensive regulars and sacreds...is the best bless nation in MA?
The priestesses have scryed upon Nightfall's post and have detected sarcasm.
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Old March 25th, 2012, 12:13 AM

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The priestesses have scryed upon Nightfall's post and have detected sarcasm.
You'd think so, but then there's his second post on the matter. If that's sarcasm, it's at a level far beyond my ken.
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Old March 25th, 2012, 04:00 AM

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Default Re: Man: A Bless nation in CBM 1.92?

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The priestesses have scryed upon Nightfall's post and have detected sarcasm.
Not at all...

Let me put it this way...

The closest recruit anywhere sacred comparison unit I can think of in terms of how they fight (high damage attack and soak incoming damage) is the Arssartut; lets say you put an E9/S8 bless on them to increase the survivability and magic resistance.

That is pretty much your base warden with just E4 bless.

Priest options are similar, the extra 2 morale points on wardens makes up for the lack of easy sermon of courage.

Man has slightly stronger, cheaper and more efficient Mages...

LA Atlantis just swaps in D for N, they are both good paths.
LA Atlantis has stronger W compared to Ma Man's stronger A, A is a much stronger path.
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Old March 25th, 2012, 01:48 PM

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Priest options are similar, the extra 2 morale points on wardens makes up for the lack of easy sermon of courage.
Wrong. Having H2 priest mages (that aren't mounted, damned Eriu) means a crystal shield from a pretender, lucky indy, merc, or trade boosts it up to H3. And barring that, H2s, which Atlantis can recruit anywhere once it gets underwater, are hugely more than just for sermon of courage. Any large number of sacreds take an insane number of H1s to bless, with huge wastage. Man doesn't even have priest mages, and in order to take advantage of the Warden's stealth special ability, would have to use fort turns to recruit H1s. Which you have to, or surely you wouldn't seriously compare Arssurtuts without mentioning amphibian, or the magic weapon that destroys SCs with strength drain.
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