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September 12th, 2002, 08:06 AM
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Re: Proportions 2.4.2 released
Thanks for catching those. It's been quite difficult to catch all of the weird upgrade side-effects. I thought I got the ECM ones sorted out, but I guess not. Grumble grumble...
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September 12th, 2002, 09:30 AM
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Re: Proportions 2.4.2 released
There is a very helpful tool in the tools archive (probably the old one) that will look through the components file and list all the family numbers. IIRC it is called 'Component Lister'. Helped me a lot to sort out the components and upgrade issues when revising the Devnull Mod.
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September 13th, 2002, 05:18 PM
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Re: Proportions 2.4.2 released
I found it, it's from November 2001, but the link is broken. That sounds like a really useful utility.
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September 16th, 2002, 04:16 AM
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Re: Proportions 2.4.2 released
Another upgrade problem:
There are 3 separate mineral miners families:
Mineral miner (level I,II,III)
Mineral complex (I,II,III)
Mineral megaplex (I,II,III)
Now, if I research Industry 2 and get megaplex,
complex becomes obsolete. Thus, if I later research mineral extraction 2, I can upgrade miner 1 to miner 2, megaplex 1 to megaplex 2 but there is no way to upgrade complex 1 to complex 2 ! It simply does not show up in upgrade window. Thus if I already build complex 1, I stuck with it and must scrap it. Same happened to radioactive extraction buildings. I suspect there is a mix-up in family numbers of complex and megaplex.
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September 16th, 2002, 05:20 AM
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Re: Proportions 2.4.2 released
Thanks Oleg. I thought I'd tested that, but ah well. The thing is they are all in the same family, so the intention was that they would upgrade to the biggest and brightest. It seems important to be able to upgrade from complex to megacomplex without scrapping. For some reason, it seems that it upgrades only to the first facility found with the highest roman numeral, so that's Facility II, not Megacomplex II. Ooops. So I either need to change the numerals, or reverse the fac family order. I may do one way for 2.4.3 (to preserve games in progress) and the other for 3.0 (since it will be easier to understand).
PvK
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September 16th, 2002, 05:25 AM
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Re: Proportions 2.4.2 released
Oh, and BTW, a tip - megacomplexes don't really obsolete complexes, because complexes retain a much faster build time and a faster return on investment, to a serious degree. Especially once I fix the %$#@&* upgrade path, it can make sense to build complexes before investing in megacomplexes.
PvK
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