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August 12th, 2002, 07:57 PM
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Re: Happiness...driving me to dispair
BING! Lightbulb moment!
The natural decrease is exactly that, a decrease. It is subtracted from your current happiness level, instead of being added like all the other happiness factors. So a negative number for natural decrease makes populations unhappy(because subtacting a negative is adding), while a negative number for everything else makes your populations happy (because adding a negative is subtracting). Kind of a goofy way to do it. But it reminds me of the combat to hit defense values that were so confusing to me before too.
Thanks for triggering taht little thought process Gravey.
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August 12th, 2002, 08:03 PM
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Re: Happiness...driving me to dispair
I agree with what you say, but the term natural decrease makes me wary. Is it a double negative? I.e. if the natural decrease is the amount that is taken away from the happiness level each turn then a negative natural decrease will raise the hapiness score and thus lower the happiness level. Who knows? That was the only explanation I could give to why starting planets went to indifferent with nothing apparantly happening.
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August 12th, 2002, 08:05 PM
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Re: Happiness...driving me to dispair
heh heh
you were just ahead of me there!
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August 12th, 2002, 08:27 PM
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Re: Happiness...driving me to dispair
Yep, I tested it. Made the natural decrease a positive number and homeworlds stays happy for about 8 turns and then goes jubilant. Dang, no wonder it's been so confusing trying to figure this happiness stuff out.
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August 12th, 2002, 08:41 PM
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Re: Happiness...driving me to dispair
Quote:
Originally posted by geoschmo:
Yep, I tested it. Made the natural decrease a positive number and homeworlds stays happy for about 8 turns and then goes jubilant. Dang, no wonder it's been so confusing trying to figure this happiness stuff out.
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Very interesting Geoschmo. Thank you for this explanation.
Did you test what happens if the colony starts angry? Because the negative natural decrease lowers as far as I observed the happiness level only to indifferent and I have the impression, that if you start at angry then it will improve the happiness until again indifferent is reached. But I might be completely wrong about this. However if you use your test model with a positive natural decrease the happiness should go to riot when you start at angry if I am right.
And have you any idea what the "Natural Decrease for Other Races" does??
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August 12th, 2002, 08:48 PM
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Re: Happiness...driving me to dispair
I don't know of any way to start a race at angry. But regardless of starting point the change in happiness should always go one direction, either up or down. As far as I know it's a number between 0 and 100, and things that make it go up alwyas make it go up and things that make it go down always make it go down.
The natural decrease for other races is, I have always been told, supposed to be the natural progression for any populations you have that are not of your own. They are on your planet, but they are group of captured, or traded for people. I was always under the impression they got agry over time and your own pop got happy, but I am not so sure about that now. I need to test that some.
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Re: Happiness...driving me to dispair
I've always wondered what
Res Mod - %
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