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Old May 7th, 2012, 01:23 PM

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Default Re: Father of Winters

Well, its hard to say counters without knowing your capabilities.

Some that come to mind, depending on his build, and your capabilities.



EarthMeld
Bow of Botulf
vineshields and/or entangle.
skelly spam (which your death oracles are good at)


Look for non resistable spells, and / or spells that don't require a save.
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Old May 7th, 2012, 03:04 PM

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It's also hard to name specific counters without knowing the gear of the FoW. That said I'm only going to be commenting on already discussed options anyway.

Vine Bow - Easy to test if it works regardless of shield check or not. I don't use these often because I don't generally like them very much, but vine arrows entangle regardless of whether they hit or not. Vine bows should be the same as the spell, in theory, but it is vaguely possible that they don't.

Vine Shields - IIRC these rely on an MR test to see if you get entangled. If they don't, it's a strength test (but I'm very certain it's not). Again very easy to test (just get someone with a vine shield and have an elephant attempt to attack them). In either case though, a FoW is not an ideal target.

Defense has 0 effect on missiles. Only shield parry values or air shield can block missiles, and then it's up to protection to absorb them if that fails.
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Trumanator informs me that what I said about vine shields is wrong. Well, this is why we preface with IIRC It's been so long since I've actually used them and had to know how they work that I'm not 100% sure of the mechanics. What I am sure of is that he has a very different idea of how they work than I do, and there have been wildly different theories on the exact mechanics in the past on the forums.
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