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				May 10th, 2012, 12:40 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Awestruck.  New Late Age game.  (Started) 
 It's tedious, but it may be worth having all the players confirm they have deleted all the old files in their save game folder before downloading the re-hosted turn as I think the main reason rollbacks have such a bad reputation is failure to do this. And of course the more players you've got the more chances for someone to not pay attention and use old files. 
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				May 10th, 2012, 01:00 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Awestruck.  New Late Age game.  (Started) 
 
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					Originally Posted by Valerius  It's tedious, but it may be worth having all the players confirm they have deleted all the old files in their save game folder before downloading the re-hosted turn as I think the main reason rollbacks have such a bad reputation is failure to do this. And of course the more players you've got the more chances for someone to not pay attention and use old files. |  This is a very good idea. |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 10th, 2012, 03:21 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Awestruck.  New Late Age game.  (Started) 
 @ Amhazair - It's probably a good idea to make heavy use of the llamaserver "send message to players" option right now, as I've found that an excellent admin tool for both notifying all players that something inportant is happening, and also if the time comes, essential for conveying accurate instructions during the rollback phase. (as rollback disasters are always the fault of players, since they only occur when one or more players uses the wrong version of a .trn file) |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 10th, 2012, 06:31 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Awestruck.  New Late Age game.  (Started) 
 Not vengeful, just being proactive.  Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice... 
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					Originally Posted by Executor  Marginon AI??? |  WTF. Really, one of the top nations goes AI. What a dick move. Good job Skymoon. AI at turn 18 without telling anybody.
 
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				May 10th, 2012, 07:48 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by Balaskar  Not vengeful, just being proactive.  Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice... |  You must not like your cap than very much   . |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 12th, 2012, 03:59 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Awestruck.  New Late Age game.  (Started) 
 I don't see how sitting there waiting for you and Pythium to march on my lands is going to help me keep my cap. 
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					Originally Posted by Balaskar  Not vengeful, just being proactive.  Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice... |  You must not like your cap than very much   . |  |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 12th, 2012, 07:54 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Awestruck.  New Late Age game.  (Started) 
 I possibly away till monday. Sorry to hold up the game until then. I might be able to do turns tonight or tomorrow. |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 12th, 2012, 10:20 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Awestruck.  New Late Age game.  (Started) 
 Stagger Lee will be taking over LA Marignon.  I will be coordinating with him to time the Rollback so even players who would sneakily try to submit a new turn 17 with the knowledge they now have will have no chance to do so.    |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Awestruck.  New Late Age game.  (Started) 
 Copy/pasting from my mail using the Llamaserver so all instructions can be easily followed by whatever means everyone prefers.   
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 Hello all,
 
 As you will have noticed, we’ve been experiencing a bit of a delay due to the Marignon player setting his nation to AI and disappearing.  Luckily I have now found a sub, and will roll back the turn so he can submit a new turn 17 and we can then continue on as we were.
 
 Rollbacks though are delicate matters, and require some care to execute properly without ruining the entire game.  As  such I’m sending you all this e-mail with the necessary explanations and instructions.
 Before anything else everyone HAS TO delete their current 2h and trn files for turn 18.  THIS IS VITALLY IMPORTANT.  If any single player fails to do this it will most likely cause catastrophic crashes and ensure the game cannot be continued.  I will say again: DELETE YOUR CURRENT TURN FILES NOW.  You will get a new turn file for turn 18 when I re-host the game.  Simply overwriting your current turn files with the new one you receive (like you do for all other turns) is NOT good enough, and will cause the crashes mentioned before, so please be good boys (or girls) and trust me on this, okay?
 
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 1)	I will rollback the turn to turn 17.
 2)	Stagger Lee (the new Marignon player) will submit a new turn.  No one else should do so! I’m serious here, anyone submitting a new turn 17 anyway will incur my eternal wrath and such more.
 3)	I will immediately force hosting.  That way, the llamaserver will just use your previously submitted turns again and no one can gain any benefit from the knowledge they gained from seeing the turn play out
 4)	You will all receive a new turn 18, from which you can then play and submit a new turn as normal.  I will say here again: make sure you deleted your previous turn files before saving the newly received turn into your games folder, and do NOT just overwrite it.
 
 Sorry for repeating the same thing over and over again, but better safe than sorry.  I would not like to have to abandon the game because someone thought I was just joking around.
 As a final point, Stagger Lee has mentioned he’ll be busy over the weekend, and will probably only be able to play his turn afterwards, so the rollback will only happen at that time.  Until then I hope you have fun doing other stuff.
 |  What I forgot to add (But isn't terribly important) is that I will coordindate the rollback with Stagger Lee so he can play his turn immediately, to give any would-be cheaters as little opportunity as possible to quickly submit a new turn 17 anyway.  Since no one would stoop so low though, it doesn't really matter, right?   
			
			
			
			
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				May 12th, 2012, 11:04 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Awestruck.  New Late Age game.  (Started) 
 So I assume we ignore this turn 19 that's just turned up then? |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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