The Joys of Overzealous Moderators

[Fantomen]

Originally Posted by Foodstamp

I don't believe that is an accurate translation of what I said, but you're welcome to take it as a compliment.

What is an accurate translation then?

I'm a little disappointed that you seem to be out to get Gandolf and ChrisP, which would give them 0 options for community since I am pretty sure you guys are not going to accept them with open arms.

Gandalf is constantly referring to "other" mysterious dom3 communities, so unless he's lying he seems to have plenty of options. Chrispedersen has the option of going back to his old account, as well as joining other forums. And dom3mods welcomes everyone, including Gandalf and Chrispedersen, we just happen to insult everyone as well, if you can take some abuse you'll be fine there. In any case I'm not out to "get" anyone, I just want people to stand up honestly for what they do, and the moment they do all sins are forgiven. Besides, banning Gandalf would also be bad for the community since his server is great for setting up blitzes.

Calling them out for their multiple accounts is to show the hypocrisy in banning other major contributors thoughtlessly. If we can overlook the faults of some, and we should, then we could also forgive the faults of Calahan and Sombre.

Most of all I want Shrapnel to appoint mods from within the community to handle things, to avoid ****ing things up whenever they go on a crusade to promote "harmony".

I don't see any issue with the multiple accounts, even the ones the banned guys use to post here, I think banning people is kind of dumb anyway unless they have gone through an infraction system or they created an account to simply break the FCOC.

Exactly, banning people is dumb, which is the whole issue in the first case.

That being said, I love your avatar and that trumps anything you say on the forums that I would disagree with.

I guess I'll take that as a compliment as well, since that avatar is me.

[Foodstamp]

Originally Posted by Fantomen

What is an accurate translation then?

Gandalf is constantly referring to "other" mysterious dom3 communities, so unless he's lying he seems to have plenty of options. Chrispedersen has the option of going back to his old account, as well as joining other forums. And dom3mods welcomes everyone, including Gandalf and Chrispedersen, we just happen to insult everyone as well, if you can take some abuse you'll be fine there. In any case I'm not out to "get" anyone, I just want people to stand up honestly for what they do, and the moment they do all sins are forgiven. Besides, banning Gandalf would also be bad for the community since his server is great for setting up blitzes.

Calling them out for their multiple accounts is to show the hypocrisy in banning other major contributors thoughtlessly. If we can overlook the faults of some, and we should, then we could also forgive the faults of Calahan and Sombre.

Most of all I want Shrapnel to appoint mods from within the community to handle things, to avoid ****ing things up whenever they go on a crusade to promote "harmony".

Exactly, banning people is dumb, which is the whole issue in the first case.

I guess I'll take that as a compliment as well, since that avatar is me.

More accurately, I was just making fun of the people on the other forum because often it just seems to be a podium for them to disparage other people. Ironic I know.

Beyond that, I think we agree; I hate to see anyone banned from the forums, unless real life threats or attacks (releasing personal information etc.) are involved.

I thought your avatar was a picture of an actress from the black and white movie era. You have a very classic beauty.

Originally Posted by Fantomen

Calling them out for their multiple accounts is to show the hypocrisy in banning other major contributors thoughtlessly. If we can overlook the faults of some, and we should, then we could also forgive the faults of Calahan and Sombre.

This is wrong, the rules have to be the same for everybody: Nobody can get a free pass to harass/abuse other posters just because of who he is. You might discuss the degree of the punishment, but not that there should be a punishment.

This is just a forum about a game of pixel soldiers, and getting banned is not a big deal: the owners have said themselves they have no problem with banned posters coming back under a new identity, if that means they behave properly from then onwards. All the hair pulling in this thread is out of place, getting banned is not the end of the world.

Also, you cannot justify insulting others just by saying that you also insult your buddies (let's be honest, there's a serious difference between friendly poking between peers and the abuse that gets thrown to the ones that are disliked by the hive mind). The mood in the Invision forums is like that of an old boys club: with insiders getting a free pass & outsiders being the target of the real abuse. It's as if you people were back in high school.

I happen to think that our community would be a better place if we all tried to show a minimum respect for each other, including those we do not like.

Young males have always got into fights for the silliest reasons, been there and done it myself, but they are expected to mature and learn sooner or later that their freedom, including their freedom of speech, ends up at that place where it collides with some other people's freedom. If they do not, they will be corrected by their elders or by those that hold the power in their society, as has been the case here.

[rdonj]

Originally Posted by Wendigo_reloaded

This is wrong, the rules have to be the same for everybody: Nobody can get a free pass to harass/abuse other posters just because of who he is. You might discuss the degree of the punishment, but not that there should be a punishment.

This is just a forum about a game of pixel soldiers, and getting banned is not a big deal: the owners have said themselves they have no problem with banned posters coming back under a new identity, if that means they behave properly from then onwards. All the hair pulling in this thread is out of place, getting banned is not the end of the world.

Also, you cannot justify insulting others just by saying that you also insult your buddies (let's be honest, there's a serious difference between friendly poking between peers and the abuse that gets thrown to the ones that are disliked by the hive mind). The mood in the Invision forums is like that of an old boys club: with insiders getting a free pass & outsiders being the target of the real abuse. It's as if you people were back in high school.

I happen to think that our community would be a better place if we all tried to show a minimum respect for each other, including those we do not like.

Young males have always got into fights for the silliest reasons, been there and done it myself, but they are expected to mature and learn sooner or later that their freedom, including their freedom of speech, ends up at that place where it collides with some other people's freedom. If they do not, they will be corrected by their elders or by those that hold the power in their society, as has been the case here.

Congratulations on both misunderstanding Fantomen's post and your misconception of the invision board. Yeah, it's quite the old boy's club, in order to get in you have to... not post complete crap? The people that get treated poorly on invision are the people who do questionable things on this one. If you start posting crap though you will get called on it.